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BMWGuinness 10-19-2013 10:49 AM

http://examine.com/supplements/Nicotine/

The Good:

Possible minor weight reducing effects occur in interventions using nicotine, but they are highly unreliable and likely mediated by lesser food intake rather than inherent

Chewing gum containing nicotine can increase the metabolic rate in a dose-dependent manner (3.7-4.9% with 1-2mg nicotine) when measured for the 180 minutes following 20
minutes of chewing.

Caffeine and Nicotine appear to have benefits together towards fat loss (due to additively being thermogenic, and synergistically suppressing appetite)

The Bad:

A decrease in penile girth in the flaccid state is noted, which is thought to be secondary to reduced blood flow

An acute suppression of growth hormone has been noted with nicotine to a small degree

Both nicotine and its metabolite cotinine appear to appear to negatively influence testicular structure and circulating testosterone levels

w1cked 10-19-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWGuinness (Post 240256)
http://examine.com/supplements/Nicotine/

The Good:

Possible minor weight reducing effects occur in interventions using nicotine, but they are highly unreliable and likely mediated by lesser food intake rather than inherent

Chewing gum containing nicotine can increase the metabolic rate in a dose-dependent manner (3.7-4.9% with 1-2mg nicotine) when measured for the 180 minutes following 20
minutes of chewing.

Caffeine and Nicotine appear to have benefits together towards fat loss (due to additively being thermogenic, and synergistically suppressing appetite)

The Bad:

A decrease in penile girth in the flaccid state is noted, which is thought to be secondary to reduced blood flow

An acute suppression of growth hormone has been noted with nicotine to a small degree

Both nicotine and its metabolite cotinine appear to appear to negatively influence testicular structure and circulating testosterone levels

Indeed. There was a concern that nicotine increases risks of Parkinsons but upon further digging I gleaned it was mostly a risk from smoking, not nicotine itself. As for The Bad, I'm a grower not a shower, so tis' all good :cool:

ipax 10-19-2013 11:22 AM

The anorectic effect is desirable, nootropic too would be if present, GH/T suppression is possibly troubling, reduction in flaccid girth isn't a dealbreaker. Hmm, on the whole am less interested now, though still curious to read up.

In a related story this moil collected foreskins from circumcisions he performed and sewed 'em into a li'l wallet. Neat thing was, all he had to do was rub it a couple times and, boom, suitcase!

Gotta love us growers :-/

w1cked 10-22-2013 06:10 AM

totally back into the swing of things again after 2-3 weeks of weaksauce, so starting logging again. few changes, I'm working higher reps now. like 6-15, with about 6-12 for most things, except smaller bodyparts, which will probably be at least 8-10. volume 40-60, as time allows.

training plan:

delts/calves/mid back
arms/neck/light chest
legs/abs/calves
chest/back
off

diet:

high carbs, aiming for 450+, protein in the 225-250 range, fats 40-60

supplements:

creatine, zinc, d3, magnesium, calcium, melatonin, fish oil, beta alanine, psyllium husk, TUDCA (liver), vitamin S and ancillaries

10/22

1) cable lateral: 20x10, 40x5x12
2) rear delt row: 50x10, 100x5x12
3) anterior delt raise: 30x10, 60x4x12
4) seated calf: 50x10, 90x2x12, 3x10
5) cable row: 105x5x12

MB619 10-22-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ipax (Post 240260)
The anorectic effect is desirable, nootropic too would be if present, GH/T suppression is possibly troubling, reduction in flaccid girth isn't a dealbreaker. Hmm, on the whole am less interested now, though still curious to read up.

In a related story this moil collected foreskins from circumcisions he performed and sewed 'em into a li'l wallet. Neat thing was, all he had to do was rub it a couple times and, boom, suitcase!

Gotta love us growers :-/

I love nicotine as a "recreational drug" (feels silly calling it that) but honestly I never have been able to get much out of it w/ regards to cutting.

With the gum, that is. It is "time released" so to speak, and just feels so incredibly weak. I can barely tell if I am getting a buzz with 2 pieces of 4mg gum, I've gone up to 4 pieces in my mouth at once in order to up the dose but it's way too much gum lol

Whereas one drag of a cigarette or e-cig and I feel something.

And I know the point here isn't to catch a buzz but I'm just using it as a way to gauge potency.

Chewing tobacco, dip, cigarettes, e-cigs.....all of those have a strong anorectic effect. The gum, I never got any appetite decrease. If anything, I would get a lot hungrier like 20 min after beginning to chew it.

Not trying to advocate smoking or dipping. just saying I think the speed of onset of the nicotine makes a huge difference. Although if you're on cycle nicotine is also an AI so that is nice.


Then again EC and Ritalin don't do anything for my appetite either. Only stimulant that really does anything for my appetite is Adderall :o

w1cked 10-23-2013 07:08 PM

10/23

bb curl: barx10, 65x10, 100x5x10
tri pushdown: 60x10, 90x5, 120x5, 150x5x12
db hammer: 40x4x12
overhead db ext: 50x3x15
machine flye: 60x10, 90x10, 120x4x12

w1cked 10-24-2013 11:16 AM

10/24

1) hack squat: 110x5, 200x5, 300x2x10
2) leg curl: 25x10, 55x5, 85x5, 115x2x10
3) standing calf: 115x5, 215x5, 315x5, 415x6x10
4) seated neck: 3rd pin x 2 x 25
5) incline ab: 70 x 2 x 15

w1cked 10-25-2013 06:27 PM

10/25

1) incline db: 20x10, 40x5, 55x5, 70x5, 80x12, 2x10
2) csr: 45x10, 90x5, 125x5, 155x12, 2x10
3) hs chest: 160x5, 210x12, 9, 8
4) lat pull: 165x5, 210x3x12

w1cked 10-27-2013 04:40 PM

*the incline db top set was with 85 not 80

10/27

1) cable lateral: 20x10, 40x2x14, x3x13
2) rear delt: 50x10, 100x5x15
3) front delt: 30x10, 60x18, 3x15
4a) seated calf: 50x10, 90x13, 4x12
4b) cable row: 75x10, 120x5x12

w1cked 10-28-2013 07:56 PM

10/28

bb curl: 45x10, 70x10, 105x3x10, 2x8
tri pushdown: 70x10, 100x5, 130x5, 160x5x12
db hammer: 20x5, 45x4x8
overhead tri ext: 55x3x12
reverse curls: 50x3x15
machine curls: 70x10, 100x10, 130x12, 10


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