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Unread 11-17-2017, 12:16 PM
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I guess I see a weekly 48-hour fast as more extreme, and less "long-term normality," than a day of RFL here and there!
You'd be surprised how easy and natural it feels. Especially when carrying sufficient amounts of fat. It also makes sense evolutionary speaking.


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And if you've been overweight for a long time or you aren't really in tune with nutrient-dense eating and your body's needs, you can't just suddenly say "I'll eat normally." You don't have a normal. You have your familiar way of eating that got you fat, and you have your diet that got you thin.
If it would be normal, one wouldn't be overweight. Diet doesn't get you thin. Lifestyle doesn't get you thin. In actuality, being "thin" is natural. What's not natural is all the crap and temptation we're confronted with together with our cultural rules which we think are normal, but in fact they're not. It's far from normal. We all fall trap to it once we are born and raised.


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To find what "normal" maintenance is, you need external feedback -- such as the number on the scale. Maybe any given day the number is somewhat arbitrary (you're retaining water, you need to make a big poop, whatever) but over time it's going to tell you what you want to know: am I eating above maintenance calories, or below? And then you use that feedback to adjust. "I thought I was eating to satiation, but I'm gaining weight. I need to find lower-calorie foods that satisfy me, or I need to rethink what 'full' feels like."
Correct, but that wasn't the point. Besides, there's no need for external factors in the bigger picture. Internal factors are the only things that matter when you're looking for a healthy and sustainable body. All external factors are a facade and will become destructive or counterproductive in the long run.


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It's a good move but again, you need some external feedback to help you set up those mental games. Is it every piece of pie? How big a piece of pie? How much is n%?
Again, that wasn't the point. It was just an abstract way of communicating the concept of playing mind games. Just fill it in with your own mental cue and it'll work for you. Forget my example. Just understand the point.


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It seems to me that taking an RFL day every time you cross a threshhold would be a good way to track that feedback. E.g., you ate pie every night for dinner last month and had to take 5 RFL days. Maybe you decide to eat half a piece, or only eat dessert on weekends, and then you only take one RFL day the next month, so you know you're zeroing in on maintenance. (And THEN you can play the mental games: do I want this whole piece of pie now knowing I'll have to take an extra RFL day soon?)

I mean, if you're constantly yo-yoing, one day off RFL and the next day on, you aren't eating anywhere close to maintenance. But then obviously you need a lot of work on what "maintenance" eating is going to look like long-term.
If you're yo-yoing then there's your "external" signal/measurement that something is wrong. I find it shocking that we as western human beings struggle a lot just to maintain a healthy body. If that doesn't set off any alarm bells, I don't know what will.
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