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Unread 05-27-2015, 09:36 AM
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Default Prevent Alzheimer?>

how do i prevent this disease
I've read coffee helps

http://www.alzheimers.net/2014-04-09...its-of-coffee/
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Unread 05-27-2015, 10:24 AM
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Nicotine has protective effects on both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
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Unread 05-27-2015, 01:53 PM
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Nicotine has protective effects on both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
And smoking is great for weight loss. And weight loss reduces the risk of many health problems.
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No one will say smoke to get the nicotine. Using nicotine patches is a better option.
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And smoking is great for weight loss. And weight loss reduces the risk of many health problems.
Nicotine has the same effects on appetite suppression without any risks
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Unread 05-28-2015, 12:08 AM
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Nicotine has the same effects on appetite suppression without any risks
Are you sure about this? That seems to be the old view of things, as far as I can tell. Although I really don't know how strong the evidence is that shows potential harm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine

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Historically, nicotine has not been regarded as a carcinogen.[32] The IARC has not evaluated nicotine in its standalone form or assigned it to an official carcinogen group. While no epidemiological evidence supports that nicotine alone acts as a carcinogen in the formation of human cancer, research over the last decade has identified nicotine's carcinogenic potential in animal models and cell culture.[33][34][35] Indirectly, nicotine increases cholinergic signalling (and adrenergic signalling in the case of colon cancer[36]), thereby impeding apoptosis (programmed cell death), promoting tumor growth, and activating growth factors and cellular mitogenic factors such as 5-LOX, and EGF. Nicotine also promotes cancer growth by stimulating angiogenesis and neovascularization.[37][38] In one study, nicotine administered to mice with tumors caused increases in tumor size (twofold increase), metastasis (nine-fold increase), and tumor recurrence (threefold increase).[39] N-Nitrosonornicotine (NNN), classified by the IARC as a Group 1 carcinogen, has been shown to form in vitro in amounts less than 0.01% the active substance, when human saliva is incurbated with nornicotine.[40]

Nicotine stimulates angiogenesis and promotes tumor growth and atherosclerosis.[41]

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You're not a mice and mice bred to have tumors are not good models of humans.

Beyond that, how about this: relative to smoking, pure nicotine.....
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Nicotine has the same effects on appetite suppression without any risks
so those people I see using E-cigarettes or nicotine patches have a less risk for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's then someone who doesnt use nicotine?

nicotine raises DA, maybe, you don't think high dopamine might have possible risks?
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Unread 05-28-2015, 09:06 AM
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so those people I see using E-cigarettes or nicotine patches have a less risk for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's then someone who doesnt use nicotine?

nicotine raises DA, maybe, you don't think high dopamine might have possible risks?
E cigs have their own issues.

Nicotine. Pure nicotine. Patch or gum. What is difficult about this?
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E cigs have their own issues.

Nicotine. Pure nicotine. Patch or gum. What is difficult about this?
I understand what you are saying. I just thought you said something about keeping chronically high levels of dopamine may cause damage to the DA-producing neurons thus might increase risk for Parkinsons.

Of course, that would mean that smokers are more likely to get Parkinson's than non smokers, and since you say smokers are less likely to get Parkinson's than that idea isn't valid.
Hmm.... nicotine gum, here I come!
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