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Unread 07-31-2009, 03:08 AM
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Question Ketoacidosis? Really??

A young woman died in the UK recently after living off a diet of soup and water. According to the pathologist, she died of ketoacidosis, caused through a lack of sugars.

Considering a healthy individual has this loop back system to prevent this, and there is no mention of her being diabetic, nor an alcoholic, would you say that ketoacidosis was highly unlikely and the pathologist needs firing?

Or could there be some other reason for her developing ketoacidosis?

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She wasn't exactly on Lyle's ketogenic diet, was she? She starved herself to death. She went from 210 pounds to 128 pounds in 14 weeks. So, yeah, ketoacidosis, really.
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She wasn't exactly on Lyle's ketogenic diet, was she?
Seems not

But, apart from the fact that it was an extremely silly thing to do, why the ketoacidosis? I thought that was diabetic/alcohol whatever. I thought the loop feedback thing would prevent that otherwise, but they mention a lack of sugar, so a problem with insulin due to the lack of....? Carbs??

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Seems not

But, apart from the fact that it was an extremely silly thing to do, why the ketoacidosis? I thought that was diabetic/alcohol whatever. I thought the loop feedback thing would prevent that otherwise, but they mention a lack of sugar, so a problem with insulin due to the lack of....? Carbs??

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Saying ketoacidosis was the cause of death is like saying the guy who got hit by the car died of cardiac arrest. The heart stopping was the immediate cause, not the "real" reason. She starved to death. She totally screwed up all of her vital organ systems. Ketoacidosis was just the final nail in the coffin.

"Normal" ketoacidosis is, as you correctly point out, usually diabetic or alcoholic in nature.
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What david said: she starved to death. Zero protein for that time period does ugly things to the body too. The pathologist just wanted an easy reason.
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Thanks David and Lyle I can sleep well tonight instead of letting it bug me.
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Oh by the way, she was BMI19 when she died. Not too skinny. Not that it makes any difference, just I think that people assume you are bound to be skinny before you die of starvation.
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You die when your body starts eating your heart and organs b/c you're not eating enough protein
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She wasn't exactly on Lyle's ketogenic diet, was she? She starved herself to death. She went from 210 pounds to 128 pounds in 14 weeks. So, yeah, ketoacidosis, really.
Sounds scary.. Is it worse that Uromysitisis? That stuff nearly killed Jerry.

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Sounds scary.. Is it worse that Uromysitisis? That stuff nearly killed Jerry.

Uromysitisis killed my sister
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