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Tried it myself with adrenal fatigue
Either your adrenal cortex is damaged and you have Addisons disease or you're just a complete moron that beleives adrenal fatigue is a thing. I suspect the latter.
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I take duta which is way, waaaaaaaay stronger than fina and I have zero sides, zero water gain, never lost strength from day 1. Also hair much fuller and thicker after a few years on it.

I think side effects are extremely rare if you look at peer reviewed studies (and not that weird propecia forum study)

amazing drug imo
Whatís Duta?
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Whatís Duta?
Google it, don't be lazy.
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Thanks for the feedback so far

Just touching on Estrogen again. Iíve read everywhere that a common side effect is fat tissue gain and Iím assuming thereís an implication here that the person suffering is consuming a calorie surplus on a daily basis and not just gaining fat through some magical effect. Iíve tried to find more literature on this but Iíve failed in doing so. Based on my personal experience, assuming my Estrogen is sky high right now.. my appetite has turned voracious so I can see the correlation being made
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I take duta which is way, waaaaaaaay stronger than fina and I have zero sides, zero water gain, never lost strength from day 1. Also hair much fuller and thicker after a few years on it.

I think side effects are extremely rare if you look at peer reviewed studies (and not that weird propecia forum study)

amazing drug imo
For sure. I definitely think people should try it and see. I noticed sides like lethargy and poor sleep quality and that turned me off of it.

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Either your adrenal cortex is damaged and you have Addisons disease or you're just a complete moron that beleives adrenal fatigue is a thing. I suspect the latter.
gee youre fun.
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Read this and educate yourself:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997656/

http://www.pointinstitute.org/produc...se-management/
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For sure. I definitely think people should try it and see. I noticed sides like lethargy and poor sleep quality and that turned me off of it.
Have problems. Take endlessly tested harmless drug that's been proven 99% side effect free for 20+ years.

Blame all problems on new drug. Post on message board. Repeat forever.

Every fina thread ever on the internet in a nutshell.
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Get to 10% bodyfat first while lifting weights heavy 3x a week with reduced volume. Two weeks maintenance. Bulk up slowly (1 lb weight gain per week max), focus on getting stronger, measure body composition changes often.
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Have problems. Take endlessly tested harmless drug that's been proven 99% side effect free for 20+ years.

Blame all problems on new drug. Post on message board. Repeat forever.

Every fina thread ever on the internet in a nutshell.
all my knowledge of that drughas been alarmist stuff so far i guess. Mostly found on aas forums so notsurprising
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all my knowledge of that drughas been alarmist stuff so far i guess. Mostly found on aas forums so notsurprising
lmao

"take underground lab steroids made from powder from china that actually have legit serious risks and side effects"
"blame all problems experienced on super benign common drug that is OTC in most country and been studied endlessly by FDA countless times + prescribed to millions of men for prostate cancer"

and this is why I barely read fitness stuff anymore

next they'll blame sucrose and MSG
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Get to 10% bodyfat first while lifting weights heavy 3x a week with reduced volume. Two weeks maintenance. Bulk up slowly (1 lb weight gain per week max), focus on getting stronger, measure body composition changes often.
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lmao

"take underground lab steroids made from powder from china that actually have legit serious risks and side effects"
"blame all problems experienced on super benign common drug that is OTC in most country and been studied endlessly by FDA countless times + prescribed to millions of men for prostate cancer"

and this is why I barely read fitness stuff anymore

next they'll blame sucrose and MSG
No carbs after 5pm bro (gmt i think)
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