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Unread 01-20-2018, 01:38 PM
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Really, that’s interesting.

Did you workout or drink BCAAS during the fast?
Workout - yes. It was like 50/50 on BCAAs (don’t seem to make a difference, but could spike insulin& briefly hurt fasted state). To get to between 8-9%, I used like a 36-hour fast 5 times in 4 weeks. No strength loss. Seems like the only way I can get that low.

Maybe it’s hormones/huge deficit/preference of fat as fuel deep in fasting - who knows, but it worked. Come 18-hours it sux, after 22, it’s a breeze. Actually pushed one fast to 60 hours.

Hey, when all else fails. Why not give it a shot? Besides being labeled as completely idiotic, which is probably a good point.

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Fasting is a good short term strategy. Make sure you're at least at maintenance afterwards.

Still, a caloric surplus of at least 10.000 kcal sounds like a lot of fasting
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Unread 01-20-2018, 01:48 PM
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If you really ate 7000 calories for 3 days then you would have gained around 5 to 6 pounds of fat. Thatís going to take more than 20 days to lose unless you do a massive deficit.

Just be patient.
3 days of eating 7000 calories does not equate to 6lbs of fat gain
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3 days of eating 7000 calories does not equate to 6lbs of fat gain
If you’re maintenance is 2000 it’s about 4.33 lbs fat gain.

21000 eaten - 6000 expended = 15000 surplus

15000/3500 = ~ 4.285
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Workout - yes. It was like 50/50 on BCAAs (donít seem to make a difference, but could spike insulin& briefly hurt fasted state). To get to between 8-9%, I used like a 36-hour fast 5 times in 4 weeks. No strength loss. Seems like the only way I can get that low.

Maybe itís hormones/huge deficit/preference of fat as fuel deep in fasting - who knows, but it worked. Come 18-hours it sux, after 22, itís a breeze. Actually pushed one fast to 60 hours.

Hey, when all else fails. Why not give it a shot? Besides being labeled as completely idiotic, which is probably a good point.
Hmm I might give it a try this weekend and see how I react. The only hard part for me is going to bed hungry.

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3 days of eating 7000 calories does not equate to 6lbs of fat gain
Yeah I didnít factor in OPís TDEE. 6lbs of fat is the gross.

However 7000*3=21,000 calories. 21,0000/3,500(kcal in a pound)= 6 lbs of fat
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Fasting is a good short term strategy. Make sure you're at least at maintenance afterwards.

Still, a caloric surplus of at least 10.000 kcal sounds like a lot of fasting
Not all at once. Twice per week would be about 5000 (2500 per day deficit). Do that for 2weeks -bingo.

Good point on maintenance. There’s research on ICR & ADF. Has some promise,

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[quote=Twitchy;309056]Hmm I might give it a try this weekend and see how I react. The only hard part for me is going to bed hungry.



Yeah I didn’t factor in OP’s TDEE. 6lbs of fat is the gross.

However 7000*3=21,000 calories. 21,0000/3,500(kcal in a pound)= 6 lbs of fat[/Q

100% agree. Sleeping while fasted for a while is difficult and the worst part.
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If youíre maintenance is 2000 itís about 4.33 lbs fat gain.

21000 eaten - 6000 expended = 15000 surplus

15000/3500 = ~ 4.285
very rare to find a guy at 180lbs who works out to have a maintenance of 2000.

i workout x3 a week, 165lbs and mine is 2600.
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Unread 01-20-2018, 02:21 PM
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very rare to find a guy at 180lbs who works out to have a maintenance of 2000.

i workout x3 a week, 165lbs and mine is 2600.
Lucky you. I’m about 170 with a 2200 maintenance, training weights or cardio 6 Days/week.

Also if his maintenance was 2500 that’s 1500 more calories burned, less 1/2 lb fat gain. 4,28 - 0.5 is still 3.78 lb fat gain.
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Unread 01-20-2018, 02:58 PM
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Lucky you. Iím about 170 with a 2200 maintenance, training weights or cardio 6 Days/week.

Also if his maintenance was 2500 thatís 1500 more calories burned, less 1/2 lb fat gain. 4,28 - 0.5 is still 3.78 lb fat gain.
3.78 is different to 6 lol.
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