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Unread 12-23-2016, 03:47 PM
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Default Clenbuterol while bulking?

Is there a benefit in using a low dose of clen while bulking to achieve a better muscle/fat partition or the insulin insensitivity would be a negative for lean muscle gain? does someone has a experience with this? Thanks for the answers!
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Unread 12-24-2016, 06:39 AM
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No.

And if you are already going to use stuff that isn't legal, why would you go with that on a bulk? There are plenty of other drugs that are known to improve results during a bulk.
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Unread 12-24-2016, 06:51 AM
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No.

And if you are already going to use stuff that isn't legal, why would you go with that on a bulk? There are plenty of other drugs that are known to improve results during a bulk.
Clen is legal in my country, are there any drugs that dont shut down my balls that are useful during a bulk?
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Unread 12-24-2016, 11:12 AM
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Clen is legal in my country, are there any drugs that dont shut down my balls that are useful during a bulk?
Creatine? SARMs if you're willing? That's about it.

Nothing wrong with being shut down btw.

Honestly there's no need to even run PCT or anything, you might as well just run 100-200mg "off cycle", why deal with lowered testosterone and feeling like garbage for a month after your cycle when you can just replace your natty test indefinitely?
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Unread 12-24-2016, 12:57 PM
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Creatine? SARMs if you're willing? That's about it.

Nothing wrong with being shut down btw.

Honestly there's no need to even run PCT or anything, you might as well just run 100-200mg "off cycle", why deal with lowered testosterone and feeling like garbage for a month after your cycle when you can just replace your natty test indefinitely?
Drugs are far far more complicated than that. First, it would mean you're married with a needle for the rest of your life, which is a very serious commitment. The method you're descirbing, blast and cruise, would be *valid* option only for folks that are already on TRT and don't care too much about fertility or general health.
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Unread 12-24-2016, 02:52 PM
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clen sucks regardless of bulking/cutting/maintaining
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Unread 12-24-2016, 03:50 PM
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A responsibly laid out cycle isn't going to completely neuter you forever. Testosterone has been used for decades and is pretty well understood. It's certainly safer when used responsibly than clen. Although I'm pretty sure the data linking clen to cardiac apoptosis was using ridiculous dosages and was done in rats or something like that.
But still, point is that you'll have fewer sides and better results just running some test for a while during your bulk compared to trying to bulk on clen. Obviously you'll want to do your research and know how to use it before you do anything like that.
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Unread 12-24-2016, 04:13 PM
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In other words, man up already.

hint: 600mg
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Unread 12-24-2016, 04:57 PM
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Not interested in pinning for now, guess i will just stay dyel. Thanks for the
advice guys and merry christmas!
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Unread 12-25-2016, 07:09 AM
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Well there are orals you can take that aren't too bad. I know the general rule people tout is that you must run injectable test on every cycle, but plenty of people have used dbol only with good results for over 30 years, so... and I personally have worked with a few folks that were running dbol or drol only cycles and they did fine.

Obviously you still have to train and eat right, do PCT, etc etc.
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