Originally Posted by mrlakramondas
and what you say can be reversed. you can find many bodybuilders who are much bigger than male gymnasts and they aren't close to training 6-8 hours per day. ( if we use your line of reasoning that just looks at hours trained and ignores drug use).
in bodybuilding, massive amounts of volume is not needed to reach advanced level. certainly not 20-30 working sets for a muscle group per session. and very few pro bodybuilders train with that kind of volume these days (it depends abit on how you define a working set too).
Of course top bodybuilders should be bigger than top gymnasts, but thats not the point. In bodybuilding they train and diet to get big muscles, definition and symmetri. They use the all neccesary tools to achieve what they want, training, diet, drugs or whatever... (I have never said volume is the only factor that counts). They dont have to perform anything except posing. In the seventies some of the top bodybuilders trained 4 - 5 hours 6 days a week(or even more) like Serge Nubret, Frank Zane and Arnold himself. My point is: this is whats "normal" for a top athlete in almost every sport on earth. Drugs? Yes the top bodybuilders in the seventies used drugs, most of them I guess. You say that very few pro bodybuilders train 20 - 30 working sets for a muscle group today. Maybe so, but then I say they probably are using a lot more
of drugs than Arnold & co did...
Example on high volume bodybuilding in the good old days: