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Unread 09-24-2012, 11:28 AM
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Default DNP, best dieting drug?

I've been reading up on DNP and wondered why not more people are taking it?
(outside of the fact that it's illegal, AAS is illegal, still millions get their hands on it..).
Outside of overdosing which is not really a concern unless you're an idiot, it seems to be a rather safe compound and associated with much less possible health issues compared to something like clen.
It's effect on metabolism is also much greater than eca or clen.

So why aren't more people using this stuff? Outside the side effects which will be less significant if one takes a lower dosage like 200mg, are there other problems I'm not aware of?
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Unread 09-24-2012, 11:40 AM
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Wikipedia contains a good entry on DNP, and gives info on the history.

Wikipedia - DNP

IMHO - Stupid people who decide that if 1 pill is good, 10 is better are likely to be the reason that this will never see the light of day again.
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Unread 09-24-2012, 02:39 PM
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First of all it's hard to get. Not that easy like EC.
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"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It has also been used to make photographic developer, explosives, and pesticides." WOW
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Given the propensity of dieters to fall into a 'more is better' trap and the fact that a single overdose of DNP will kill you without fail, it's best that most can't get it.
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Given the propensity of dieters to fall into a 'more is better' trap and the fact that a single overdose of DNP will kill you without fail, it's best that most can't get it.
But say one has educated himself and knows what he's doing taking only low to moderate dosage (100-200. maybe 400mg max) with the additional supplements. Would you have other reasons to advise against using it?

Have you ever used DNP and if so would you care to share your experience/knowledge?

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any problem w/ taking 20 mg amphetamine(prescription) every morning while on dnp?
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@Noah:

I should've explained better what I meant by saying that something was previously discussed here and you ended up doing some wrong inferences from that.

Given the specificity of your question, I assumed that you already had some basic understanding of the processes you are asking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_respiration

couple that with the basic understanding of how DNP works, also rehashed in this thread more than once (the powerpoint thing only explains that with more depth) PLUS the fact that it was said, more than once in this thread that DNP affects ALL energy expenditure, not just BMR/BEE or aerobic or whatever and I was pretty sure you would get your answer but seems I was wrong in that assumption.

To make this clear, and rehash this point once again in this thread, if DNP is increasing your metabolic rate by 30%, then this means EVERYTHING you do will expend 30% more energy to be performed, it doesn't matter if it is sleeping, digesting food, walking, running or doing X sets of whatever exercise you can imagine. DNP causes an inefficiency in ATP production (more substrate will be consumed and the wasted energy dissipated as heat). This affects every cell in the body including neurologic cells so there's no exclusions to the reach of the metabolic effect of DNP within the body - all terms of the energy expenditure equation will be equally affected: BMR,RMR,TEA,NEAT,TEF, etc.

Regarding the constant reminds to read the entire thread before posting questions, this is simple the house rules in this forum and you admitted before not reading the whole thing, and if you can't bother to read the thread which contains lots of information, then nobody will bother to post answers either. So search/read main site articles which covers a lot of topics, then search the forum /threads and only then new questions should be posted. While a specific answer may not exist for any given question, chances are the pieces of information needed for the answer are readily available and if not, any additional discussion will certainly contribute to the topic at hand.

Sorry if I sounded rude before, that was not the intention.
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I ran into that girl again. (had foot pain)

She's been running DNP at that low dose (150mg/day - she's ~100lbs) since I last spoke to her. She says no pain or anything. Also not terribly hot/sweaty - makes sense at a low dose I guess.

From what I could tell talking to her, she isn't really changing anything about her diet, just taking these. She wanted to "make her butt smaller" - I asked if she's been measuring/weighing or tracking this in any sort of way. Nope!

Sort of checked out after that.

At least at that low dose she's unlikely to hurt herself.
I figured that PN wasn't really the issue, not after taking DNP for just 48h....
anyway make sure she pays attention to any suspicious symptoms, especially those regarding PN..... the risk (around 10%) is quite material and as research demonstrated, dosages over 100mg is enough to trigger this side-effect for those susceptible.

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any problem w/ taking 20 mg amphetamine(prescription) every morning while on dnp?
I see no problem but since amphetamine itself boosts metabolism you should use conservative dosages of DNP to avoid intense heat waves and other potential issues. If the amphetamine is solely for fat loss goal, I would skip it altogether and stack DNP with better alternatives like DMAA, ECA or CLEN.
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I see no problem but since amphetamine itself boosts metabolism you should use conservative dosages of DNP to avoid intense heat waves and other potential issues. If the amphetamine is solely for fat loss goal, I would skip it altogether and stack DNP with better alternatives like DMAA, ECA or CLEN.
I don't suppose you have any figures for a bmr increase? I couldn't find any.
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