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Unread 04-28-2014, 01:08 AM
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Default Milk, new sports drink question

I see the relevant thread is or was always locked.

Question is whether non-fat milk could equal or surpass the benefits of isotonic/hypotonic sports drinks DURING the workout itself as opposed specifically to post workout. I understand the benefits of iso/hypotonic sports drinks, in terms of intra-workout rehydration, is that they don't stay long in the gut. Or something like that.

Anyway, curious as to your perspective on this.
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How badly do you want to puke during the workout?

Milk is too slowly digesting to be used during your typical workout. Maybe a very long-rest interval/low rep workout (where there is little metabolic stress).
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Why not take a sports drink such as Powerade Zero and toss in the appropriate amount of MPI and dextrose to accomplish roughly the same thing.

You'll probably skip the puking part.
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Why not take a sports drink such as Powerade Zero and toss in the appropriate amount of MPI and dextrose to accomplish roughly the same thing.

You'll probably skip the puking part.
I'd have thought the milk protein element would be the component that slows the digestion, so not sure why that would help with anything.
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It is, I'd add whey to a carbo drink.
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I'd have thought the milk protein element would be the component that slows the digestion, so not sure why that would help with anything.
No lactose? I thought that was the main culprit in gastric upset from milk. I could have (and probably) thought wrong.
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No lactose? I thought that was the main culprit in gastric upset from milk. I could have (and probably) thought wrong.
It's the casein in milk protein (~80%) that slows gastric emptying.
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It's the casein in milk protein (~80%) that slows gastric emptying.
I get that casein is slow digesting. I was referring to lactose.

Lyle, you mention this in a review. Granted you're talking specifically about lactose intolerances. I was under the assumption that lactose in general was hard to digest, even in those that can, in large amounts.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/res...ch-review.html

"As a final comment, if there is one major problem with milk for many people, itís the presence of lactose (milk-sugar). Lactose, like all digestible carbohydrates requires a specific enzyme to be broken down called lactase. However, some people lose the ability to produce lactase/digest lactose; this can occur either completely or relatively (in the latter case, folks can handle small amounts of dairy).

Lactose intolerance, which should not be confused with a true milk allergy, can cause stomach upset, gas, and diarrhea in predisposed people; itís racially based and some ethnicities are more or less likely to have problems. For those with lactose intolerance, but who wish to use milk following training there are several options.

The first is to find a source of lactose free milk. Brands such as Lactaid add lactase to milk to digest the lactose into glucose and galactose; this typically results in sweeter milk but without the offending lactase. Lactase pills are also available which can be taken with milk to help with digestion. Finally, there are products which claim to increase lactase levels in the gut and some people find that milk consumed with other food is tolerable; additionally, regular yogurt consumption can improve the ability to digest lactose."
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Lyle, you mention this in a review. Granted you're talking specifically about lactose intolerances. I was under the assumption that lactose in general was hard to digest, even in those that can, in large amounts.
No. It doesn't say that. It says that for those who ARE lactose intolerant, some are completely, and others relatively. For those who are NOT intolerant, to state the obvious, no problem with digestion.
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I get that casein is slow digesting. I was referring to lactose.

Lyle, you mention this in a review. Granted you're talking specifically about lactose intolerances. I was under the assumption that lactose in general was hard to digest, even in those that can, in large amounts.
Nope. Only a problem for those who lack the enzyme.
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