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Unread 01-20-2018, 08:41 AM
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Hahaha +50.

Cabergoline is supposed to be insane in regard of sex life. You ejaculate and you're ready to go a few minutes later like in high school.

Cabergoline if I recall keeps prolactin from declining after ejaculatuon.

Pro-tip: Carbergoline plus cialis, sex life is amazing.

Cialis keeps your donger hard and cabergoline makes you have no refractory period. Laid, catch your breath, laid, catch your breath, etc.
Is that from personal experience? Sounds mad! Does this capergoline have any dodgy side effects, the way you use it?
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Unread 01-20-2018, 08:51 AM
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Is that from personal experience? Sounds mad! Does this capergoline have any dodgy side effects, the way you use it?
Low prolactin levels cause some wacky side effects but i never experienced any i think
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Unread 01-20-2018, 02:43 PM
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Oh im sorry i forgot to peruse all these in vivo human tren studies you have access to in order to make such a confident assertion.
We have no in vivo human studies tren. Which is why I said "We literally have zero data suggesting tren increases prolactin" - 100% confident in that assertion. Reading comprehension - learn it, love it.
The in vitro data by the way, suggests that "tren induced prolactin" is a non-issue.

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There's no scientific evidence as I said, but EVERY tren user EVER, reported increase in prolactin.
Except every single tren using client of mine, like, EVER.

In most cases, it's a lack of E2 control, a well known prolactin stimulant. In others it gets a bit weird and by no means is isolated to tren/19 nors as most believe.
TRH, increased during hypothyroid conditions, is another known prolactin stimulant. You can speculate here to the impact of tren on the thyroid if you wish.
Sometimes you get a "false high" caused by inappropriate bloodwork that cannot differentiate from macroprolactin.
Then you have really weird cases, like myself, who have high prolactin from TRT with normal thyroid/e2 numbers. Pure speculation - it's probably poor dopamine levels from deficiency/depletion, defective transport, genetics or w/e.

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Unread 01-20-2018, 03:11 PM
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We have no in vivo human studies tren. Which is why I said "We literally have zero data suggesting tren increases prolactin" - 100% confident in that assertion. Reading comprehension - learn it, love it.
The in vitro data by the way, suggests that "tren induced prolactin" is a non-issue.


Except every single tren using client of mine, like, EVER.

In most cases, it's a lack of E2 control, a well known prolactin stimulant. In others it gets a bit weird and by no means is isolated to tren/19 nors as most believe.
TRH, increased during hypothyroid conditions, is another known prolactin stimulant. You can speculate here to the impact of tren on the thyroid if you wish.
Sometimes you get a "false high" caused by inappropriate bloodwork that cannot differentiate from macroprolactin.
Then you have really weird cases, like myself, who have high prolactin from TRT with normal thyroid/e2 numbers. Pure speculation - it's probably poor dopamine levels from deficiency/depletion, defective transport, genetics or w/e.
Is your e2 a touch high recently or are you naturally cunty? There are no studies on tren and prolactin implies you can't state one way or another its doing something or not. Anyway, which labcoat wanna be coach are you, that blabbering sounds awfully like Alex Kikel
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Unread 01-20-2018, 03:30 PM
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Is your e2 a touch high recently or are you naturally cunty? There are no studies on tren and prolactin implies you can't state one way or another its doing something or not. Anyway, which labcoat wanna be coach are you, that blabbering sounds awfully like Alex Kikel
You give me a Randy Marsh type response to begin with.
Then proceed to state that "there are no studies on tren and prolactin implies you can't state one way or another its doing something or not" despite previously stating that you were taking caber to "reduce tren induced high prolactin levels".
It's finished off with a bunch of ad hominem attacks while suggesting that I am the "cunty" one. Cool.

My "blabbering" is information you can find in a any decent endocrinology textbook and I have no idea who Alex Kikel is. Beyond that, my participation in this thread is over since nothing productive will come of this conversation.

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Unread 01-20-2018, 09:15 PM
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There was a summer when I took cabergoline. I recall having a fling with this crazy babe server. She would call me over to bone her, it was great. Well, the sex was pretty crazy. She was a biter, and a scratcher. I sustained injuires. The pain was okay. I'm hard to hurt. Regardless, I rarely got off, despite other people claiming multiple firehose ejaculations, although I would have sex for hours. Still, I was really flourishing in my boneabilty. Girl had a boyfriend across the country. It was a temporarily open relationship, so no harm. Anyhow, I started dating this other girl, and that's when she tried to initiate threesomes. That would have been crazy. I would be a manwhore, at that point. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. I consider this one of my bigger mistakes, because these women were perfect. I'm kind of a monogamist, and it kills me. I blame cabergoline for that summer. It was very surreal, and I was basically manic the entire time.

My nipples were always hard. I mean, it was windy and warm and I was lifting in high frequency. I had a big old chest. I would wear light t-shirts, and I noticed that pedestrians would stare at my hard nipples as if they were very jealous, aroused, or maybe just concerned.
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Unread 01-21-2018, 05:01 AM
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Is that from personal experience? Sounds mad! Does this capergoline have any dodgy side effects, the way you use it?
Nah, friend told me that

There are little to no sides with caber, if you dose it right, at least IME.

And as Myles.Buckley suggested me, you can also add Bupropion , for a sexual wombo-combo.


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Except every single tren using client of mine, like, EVER.

In most cases, it's a lack of E2 control, a well known prolactin stimulant. In others it gets a bit weird and by no means is isolated to tren/19 nors as most believe.
TRH, increased during hypothyroid conditions, is another known prolactin stimulant. You can speculate here to the impact of tren on the thyroid if you wish.
Sometimes you get a "false high" caused by inappropriate bloodwork that cannot differentiate from macroprolactin.
Then you have really weird cases, like myself, who have high prolactin from TRT with normal thyroid/e2 numbers. Pure speculation - it's probably poor dopamine levels from deficiency/depletion, defective transport, genetics or w/e.
Indeed. I researched a bit and literature suggests that there's no correlation between tren and prolactin, and in most cases it's poor estrogen control. So, you're probably right. I never looked too much into tren, because I think that tren sucks.

Don't leave the thread, I have 2 questions for you:

1. What do you think about tren ace vs. tren enanthate? (I think tren E is garbage)

2. Does the usage of GH helps with negative sides of tren and if so, by which mechanism?

Thanks.
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Unread 01-21-2018, 10:04 AM
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Don't leave the thread, I have 2 questions for you:

1. What do you think about tren ace vs. tren enanthate? (I think tren E is garbage)

2. Does the usage of GH helps with negative sides of tren and if so, by which mechanism?

Thanks.
1) In terms of effectiveness? Minimal difference. I mean yes, you get slightly less tren per ml with E but it's beyond insignificant. The best choice is context (length of run, etc) and individual specific (experience, tolerance to sides, etc).

2) I'm not in a position to answer this question with any sort of confidence but, based on client reports, I doubt it. "Trensomnia" is on my upcoming "to do" list in terms of research so I may have a better answer...whenever I get around to doing that

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"Trensomnia" is on my upcoming "to do" list in terms of research so I may have a better answer...whenever I get around to doing that
Oh yeah, tren mess up with sleep, even for people who sleep like bears.
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Unread 01-21-2018, 11:54 PM
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Nah, friend told me that

There are little to no sides with caber, if you dose it right, at least IME.

And as Myles.Buckley suggested me, you can also add Bupropion , for a sexual wombo-combo.




Indeed. I researched a bit and literature suggests that there's no correlation between tren and prolactin, and in most cases it's poor estrogen control. So, you're probably right. I never looked too much into tren, because I think that tren sucks.

Don't leave the thread, I have 2 questions for you:

1. What do you think about tren ace vs. tren enanthate? (I think tren E is garbage)

2. Does the usage of GH helps with negative sides of tren and if so, by which mechanism?

Thanks.
for any folks wondering about the wondo-combo item please see the bromo thread starting around post #238....
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