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![]() They weren't eating at maintenance but I don't recall details beyond that. This was years ago.
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#12
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![]() 5 scoops of Xtend would've prevented that if they knew their science
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![]() Interesting results @ phase 3. Even bigger fat loss despite switching to a "normal diet" and limited activity. It was specified what exactly this normal diet and activity comprised? Even if 50% deficit or close to maintenance.... this implies some kind of inertial/momentum effect (that is, they continued to lose fat even faster despite pulling the brakes on the calorie deficit during those 3 days...).
They used DEXA so fat loss measurement should be accurate enough. I'm reading this correctly? And if so.... WTH lol I wasn't aware of such phenomena. In the past when I was kind of obsessed with reaching the biggest deficit possible, I'd setup my cellphone alarm app to fire up every 1h and would run 20 minutes on the treadmill at 5.5mph (enough to burn 200+kcal) this was repeated for 10 times to get 2000kcal expenditure with exercise. Diet would be only 500kcal and total deficit close to 4k that day. This was done mostly at mondays after a sunday refeed/binge to quick start the diet. My daily deficit goal back then was generally 2000kcal/day (1k feed, 1k exercice) on weekdays only, while weekend would be off. I could sustain that consistently for few weeks and got great results while things didn't degenerated.... ![]() So it's not the same as this experiment (5k deficit daily for 4 days lol, that's truly epic). Still good to know that this kind of effort is not a waste and LBM losses is not abysmal as I imagined. |
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The one link I have saved on this phone shows him taking inn 330g protein from whey at 225lb body weight and doing 4-8 hrs of LISS. Later in the log he took in less protein per LBM. I don't have the exact numbers. He also did HEAVY weights. From the comments others made, his lifts were strong as many were impressed by his poundage. He maintained his strength through his crazy program and has been sort of an idol of mine as I've tried to follow.his extreme cardio approach to.cutting at various times in the last two years. |
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Edit: to clarify, by waste mass I mean whatever remains of fat tissue after fatty acid is used, like carbon, oxygen or whatever. ?? Last edited by BigPecsPeter : 03-17-2014 at 05:28 AM. |
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![]() That might be possible, but underestimating initial intake or being more active seem more likely.
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![]() Fascinating stuff. I wish the study would've extended longer, but that's probably impractical and perhaps unethical. Interesting study and great review.
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Probably this was caused by few different factors including maybe measurement margin of error, the partial glycogen depletion causing calories to be initially stored while fat burn kept going-on, among other possibilities. It's also glaring that the protein consumed didn't get any LBM sparing compared with zero protein but this has more to do with the type of protein used (whey) as observed in the article. I would read the entire paper but only the abstract is available. Anyway the main point covered by all that was really interesting. Last edited by niloluiz : 03-17-2014 at 07:23 PM. |
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