Question about fats

[lylemcd]

Originally Posted by Pr1c3rA

Actually, this is a forum thread with a question about Lyle's product "The Ketogenic Diet..." (Notice the forum string BodyRecomposition Support Forums > My products > The Ketogenic Diet > Question about fats). To take it a step further... Absolutely! I have no problem spelling it out for you so you don't fail to read between the lines again:

In regards for Ketogenic dieting, as outlined in Lyle's book, 'The Ketogenic Diet...', when one is selecting the approximately 65% of the calories they will consume in the form of dietary fat, are there any concrete suggestions for how much of each of those three types of fats one should be consuming?

No. There are no concrete recommendations.

[grndzro]

Originally Posted by lylemcd

No. Just no. Saturated are not equal to monounsaturated and no matter how much the paleo dudes say it, it still won't be true.

I agree with you as far as a carb based diet goes. Saturated fat with carbs leads to prolonged elevated poly/mufa levels that result in degradation of lipids and arterial plaque. In the absence of adequate fat utilization VLDL rises.

Even as far back as 1983 a breakdown of plaque shows that a high majority of faty acid deposits are PUFA/MUFA.
http://www.jlr.org/content/24/10/1329.full.pdf

Considering saturated fat intake doubles polyunsaturated intake the fact that lipid deposits of both MUFA/PUFA combined in plaque are 8 times as abundant should raise some eyebrows.
http://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g2272

Fats in the order of stability are Saturated>Monounsaturated>Polyunsaturated
The heart prefers saturated fat above the rest.

Bottom line is Saturated fats are not the monkey in the closet.
The real monkey is degradation of PUFA/MUFA, and excess carbohydrate consumption.

[lylemcd]

Originally Posted by grndzro

I agree with you as far as a carb based diet goes. Saturated fat with carbs leads to prolonged elevated poly/mufa levels that result in degradation of lipids and arterial plaque. In the absence of adequate fat utilization VLDL rises.

Even as far back as 1983 a breakdown of plaque shows that a high majority of faty acid deposits are PUFA/MUFA.
http://www.jlr.org/content/24/10/1329.full.pdf

Considering saturated fat intake doubles polyunsaturated intake the fact that lipid deposits of both MUFA/PUFA combined in plaque are 8 times as abundant should raise some eyebrows.
http://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g2272

Fats in the order of stability are Saturated>Monounsaturated>Polyunsaturated
The heart prefers saturated fat above the rest.

Bottom line is Saturated fats are not the monkey in the closet.
The real monkey is degradation of PUFA/MUFA, and excess carbohydrate consumption.

You're wrong and an idiot. Go away please. Polys are only an issue at excessive intakes and there's plenty of data showing sat fat is inflammatory and it's not just on a base of carbs.

And just looking at stability is missing most of the picture.

[grndzro]

Originally Posted by lylemcd

You're wrong and an idiot. Go away please. Polys are only an issue at excessive intakes and there's plenty of data showing sat fat is inflammatory and it's not just on a base of carbs.

And just looking at stability is missing most of the picture.

No problem have fun with your forum.

[daavisonfire]

It's actually mentioned a few times in the book

[KrCouchPotato]

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