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Unread 10-31-2016, 05:43 AM
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Today I stumbled upon a pre-workout supplement containing theacrine. It seems that theacrine is similar to caffeine, but your body doesn't create as much of a tolerance for it. More info here.

Few questions:
- Does it work?
- Is theacrine a good substitution for caffeine?
- In what form/supplement/food should it be bought and consumed?

Thanks!
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Unread 10-31-2016, 06:18 AM
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https://examine.com/supplements/theacrine/
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Thanks beatle, that is actually the same link as in my post. To me it seems pretty potent, so I'm wondering what is recommended and consequently how to consume it (e.g. what to buy).
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Just from what I read very quickly, it's practically the same thing as caffeine, seems to be a bit safer from what I read briefly.

It's like amphetamine vs its N-methylated counterpart. Not a huge difference from what I believe.

Edit: To actually answer your questions.

- Seems to work. You should know if it works. If you're unsure if it's placebo or not, blindly dose it, compare to placebo. Blind caffeine too, see how it compares.

- If it works the same, yes. The thing is it's the same MOA and caffeine is probably cheaper, more well available, more well studied. Why not just get caffeine?

- Whatever form is cheapest and most pure I'd imagine.

Uh, just my worthless opinion.

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Thanks for your response, I appreciate it.

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Why not just get caffeine?
Mainly the tolerance aspect. To me it seems superior, because the typical caffeine effects won't fade (as much) while using.

Even if theacrine is 4 times more expensive than caffeine, it's still very cheap. I couldn't find pill forms in The Netherlands though.
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Mainly the tolerance aspect. To me it seems superior, because the typical caffeine effects won't fade (as much) while using.

Even if theacrine is 4 times more expensive than caffeine, it's still very cheap. I couldn't find pill forms in The Netherlands though.
Not sure how huge it is. Is it discussed on the examine page?

There are ways to fight caffeine tolerance. There's lots of talk about using NMDA antagonists (Ketamine, DXM and even Memantine, a drug to treat Alzheimers) to reduce tolerance to opiods, a variety of stimulants and benzo like substances. This includes caffeine. Not sure how substantiated this is, and its pretty extreme, but there seem to be lots of anecdotes and even some research on the matter.

This is actually something I'd like to hear Lyle's opinion on. I don't really think its his area of expertise and at this point I'm off on a tangemt and practically hijacking your thread. Hehe.
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Please go ahead. I'm definitely interested in all ways to decrease caffeine tolerance or all alternatives.
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Unread 11-01-2016, 05:34 AM
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Today I stumbled upon a pre-workout supplement containing theacrine. It seems that theacrine is similar to caffeine, but your body doesn't create as much of a tolerance for it. More info here.

Few questions:
- Does it work?
- Is theacrine a good substitution for caffeine?
- In what form/supplement/food should it be bought and consumed?

Thanks!
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