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Unread 05-04-2017, 12:07 AM
p.browne17 p.browne17 is offline
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Default PATCH Related Dosing

Hi BR community,

I recently purchased the patch and found it very intriguing, to say the least. I have been running an EC stack with Alpha-yohimbine, and following UD2.0 protocol for the last 5 weeks with great results. And after reading the patch fully, a couple questions came to mind. Unfortunately, there is minimal information elsewhere regarding PATCH-like stacks, and this seems to be the only place to turn.

My first question pertains to the beta blockers. I am currently prescribed propranolol. While I don't feel like it would be an issue to get switched to a more specific antagonist, can someone tell me how much more effective the latter is than the former pertaining to stimulation of ANP and lipolysis? In the patch, the line "I'm actually going to be recommending beta-1 specific beta- blockers for the remainder of this book" implied to me that both would be effective.

Second, while there is minimal reference to alpha-Y on these forums, would there be any benefit to stacking Alpha-Y in addition to YCL (maybe dosing alpha-Y later in the night and obviously in a fasted state, since cardiovascular effects are already significantly reduced with alpha-Y) in order to maximize lipolysis? I already have a bottle of primaforce YCL I've been waiting to take once I reach my 8 week mark with EC, so I figured the question was worth a shoot.

Lastly and probably most importantly, would it be best to taper off of EC before adding in the beta blocker, or can I just throw it right into the mix?

I appreciate any time and advice anyone can spare, thanks everyone
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