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Unread 09-03-2018, 07:45 PM
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Default Will increase in protein change fat burn?

I'm doing borderline rfl or very low carbs at the least. No starches, carbs mostly from condiments and some low carb wraps. Probably around 50 a day not counting trace amounts from green veggies. I'm doing a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight(150lb) not lbm, but I'm low end cat 2 and I lift low volume/high intensity MWF, so its close enough. If I wanted to increase my protein another 50g (and no other carbs or fats except trace amounts) for the sake of satiety, would this raise my glucose too much to burn fat for fuel?
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Unread 09-04-2018, 04:48 AM
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You'll still be in a deficit. So yeah
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Unread 09-04-2018, 03:23 PM
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[quote=w1cked;312118]You'll still be in a deficit. So yeah[/QUOTE

I'm a little confused, let's say I ate 50g of carbs instead so calories would be the same, would fat loss be the same? I thought if there was no stored carbs the body would utilize fat for fuel and if I introduced carbs while in a deficit the body would use glycogen before fat
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Unread 09-04-2018, 04:00 PM
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Slightly less fat loss because protein has higher tef (trivial)
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Unread 09-04-2018, 08:40 PM
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In other words, if you are going to eat an extra 50g of protein or carbs, pick the one that will satiate you better.
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Unread 09-05-2018, 05:58 AM
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How about you eat more, which in turn:

1)raises adherence
2)makes you gain more muscle
3)creates positive relationship with dieting
4)teaches you patience
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Unread 09-05-2018, 04:57 PM
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How about you eat more, which in turn:

1)raises adherence
2)makes you gain more muscle
3)creates positive relationship with dieting
4)teaches you patience
So I guess according to you no one should do rfl. Thanks for adding what you personally prefer.
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Unread 09-05-2018, 11:09 PM
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So I guess according to you no one should do rfl. Thanks for adding what you personally prefer.
So it's all explained in the book, isn't it? Somewhere, it is. Ketosis is not necessary for fat loss. RFL is basically low calorie, high protein. In order to be that, must be low carb. 50g of protein will only inhibit fat loss to the same degree that 200 additional calories would, but less than 50g of carbohydrate, given the higher TEF of protein.
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Unread 09-06-2018, 06:53 AM
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So I guess according to you no one should do rfl. Thanks for adding what you personally prefer.
Pretty much. Its only benefit is catering to the impatient person who needs to see the scale drop for assurance of 'progress'.
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Unread 09-06-2018, 07:30 AM
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So it's all explained in the book, isn't it? Somewhere, it is. Ketosis is not necessary for fat loss. RFL is basically low calorie, high protein. In order to be that, must be low carb. 50g of protein will only inhibit fat loss to the same degree that 200 additional calories would, but less than 50g of carbohydrate, given the higher TEF of protein.
Yes. Its basically what cat 1 are supposed to do. Psmf and 30 to 60g carbs peri workout
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