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yea, even tho I dont strictly IF anymore, when I plan to go out at night to have a few beers and eat bar food, its sure nice to have some sort of damage control.
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yea, even tho I dont strictly IF anymore, when I plan to go out at night to have a few beers and eat bar food, its sure nice to have some sort of damage control.
tell me about it.....plus a nice cardio and weight workout in the morning and youre set!
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tell me about it.....plus a nice cardio and weight workout in the morning and youre set!
exercise bulimia?
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this was not the article to make a huge distinction between soluble and insoluble fiber
is one more filling than the other? My guess is that soluble would be more so.
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Meal planning sucks. Different people need different approaches.

IF-style dieting is the only way I can maintain sub-10% BF with ease, while still going out and not worrying about hitting calorie/macro-targets all the time. Big props to Work (Martin - Lean Gains) and Brad Pilon (ESE) for their IF-protocols.

Martin's upcoming book is a must read.
When's that book due out? Any idea?
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Lyle,

Great article. One question, though.

I read somewhere (can't place it right now) that in animal studies- fiber didn't suppress appetite. Water, fiber, etc was added to food to make it less calorically dense. Regardless of how 'bulky' the food was, animals ate until protein requirements were met (similar calories).

Certainly not questioning you - just wondering if you had heard that? Thoughts?

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Since humans aren't animals, I don't happen to care. i almost never read animal research since it almost never applies.
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is one more filling than the other? My guess is that soluble would be more so.
soluble will gel in the gut and tend to have more effects in this regards

insoluble sweeps the colon...literally

since most foods have a mixture, it's a distinction that wasn't really worth making.
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soluble will gel in the gut and tend to have more effects in this regards

insoluble sweeps the colon...literally

since most foods have a mixture, it's a distinction that wasn't really worth making.
so is that the stuff that in the "cleanse" products? just a ton of insoluble?
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I've never bothered to look at a label on one but yeah probably
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I've never bothered to look at a label on one but yeah probably
They're all composed of three basic ingredients: psyllium (insoluble fiber), a bunch of herbs that do little but fill up the ingredient label, and the one they don't mention a lot about...a laxative, either senna or cascara sagrada, both "herbal", both quite effective stimulant laxatives.

I find cheap, generic, psyllium powder, plus a couple cheap, generic, Dulcolax tablets, works just as well, and, if I didn't mention it, cheap.
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