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Unread 05-13-2015, 08:44 AM
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Unread 05-13-2015, 02:59 PM
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Great article. Never again will i endure the pain of dieting natural for 7+ months.

DNP + RFL = piece of cake. Excuse the pun.
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My favourite article from you to date (and that's saying something).

Anecdotally, I always knew what you said in the article but I never really saw any solid data to back me up - it would be pretty cool to have a direct long vs short diet study with adequate protein, appropriate training, same start & end bf%, etc.

Lyle, in your opinion once you get to a relatively lean state - say sub 10% - should you make any changes if your using the quick approach?
I know you advocate higher protein intake the leaner you get but should the overall deficit be slower too? Maybe reintroduce more carbs? More time for refeeds?

I ask because I'm currently cutting down and plan on getting in the 5-6% range but I've never been leaner than 10-11% or so.
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Scientists seem to be unaware of actual protein requirements during training. At least the one on athletes had training and didn't suck totally.
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Scientists seem to be unaware of actual protein requirements during training. At least the one on athletes had training and didn't suck totally.
The standard of much of exercise/sports science research (and analysis/interpretation of collected data) is rather poor.
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The standard of much of exercise/sports science research (and analysis/interpretation of collected data) is rather poor.
Some of it, yes. The athlete study wasn't stupid but that diet studies are still using inadequate protein in 2015 baffles me.
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Why is it you see a study that could of been perfectly done but scientists screw somewhere. Like the diet studies using weird protein amounts.
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Science is often very isolated. Dieticians don't read sports research, sports researchers don't read diet research, nobody reads endocrinology research except endocrinologists, molecular bio ignores it all, brain researchers...

I just happen to keep up with it all because I never wanted to specialize.

So I can build models that include all of it.
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Some of it, yes. The athlete study wasn't stupid but that diet studies are still using inadequate protein in 2015 baffles me.
Have you look this study Lyle: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4422265/ ?

I was checking the one linked wrt to the athlete in your article, and this one appeared as related. Is recent, and from what I could see, protein intake wasn't stupidly low, yet it seems the athlete in said study was doing sprints (HIIT?).
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