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Unread 05-19-2009, 04:12 PM
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I'm digging the higher frequency column

but to use that without being an idiot, volume control and willingness to perform a shorter work out would have to be accepted...

but it seems like a smart way to maybe load the arms/delts a bit heavier (weight, not volume) once a week, and then do the pump stuff following chest/back on the upper day

i've wondered if anyone has made a volume controlled 6 day a week thing work, on a related note. chest/back, legs/abs, arms/delts, off, repeat. anyone on this forum?

again volume control would be tough...too tempting to go ballistic arnold style

great read Lyle thanks!
i did that poliquin type routine but it was

chest/back
legs
off
delts/arms
off
repeat

but i felt like a douchebag doing "arm day" so i banged it after a couple weeks.
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For genetic beginners hitting stuff as heavy as possible three times a week, when should they stop that? My neural gains are done, but should I continue going hard three days per week.

What do you recommend beginners go to after starting-strength-esque full body splits?
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For genetic beginners hitting stuff as heavy as possible three times a week, when should they stop that? My neural gains are done, but should I continue going hard three days per week.

What do you recommend beginners go to after starting-strength-esque full body splits?
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140
5'9
Bench - 115x5. Squat 135x5. DL 225x5. Press?
Will eat.
Maybe 14% fat.
why do you say your neural gains are gone? wtf does that mean?

just push and get stronger. maybe deload every 6 weeks or when you stall out
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For your upper/lower bulk split, and for someone not too advanced, would you recommend:
1) 3x per week ABA BAB at normal volume
Or
2) 4x per week as assigned but with the low end of all volumes (3x6 bench, 2x10 accessory, etc...)
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great read Lyle thanks!
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Swoll,

Westside For Skinny Bastards is a good routine that follows these basic principles:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/art...rds-part1.html

Gives you a lot of variety also
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For your upper/lower bulk split, and for someone not too advanced, would you recommend:
1) 3x per week ABA BAB at normal volume
Or
2) 4x per week as assigned but with the low end of all volumes (3x6 bench, 2x10 accessory, etc...)
I would say you could even make a progression.

Do the 4x/week upper/lower at the low volume end, and gradually add extra sets and/or reps over time.

A generic recommendation might be 3-4 sets at 6-8 reps per set. Any given workout, you might feel especially good or like crap, which will effect how many reps you get. So start with 3 sets, and when you're able to get 8 reps for all 3 sets, you can either add a 4th set or add weight.
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I think a good way to make full body workouts work is to do some muscle groups high volume, while other muscles low volume.
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Raja,

I really can't read your posts when you type in that AOL chat speak. Please take the time to use punctuation and spell out 'you' instead of 'u'.
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