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In all seriousness, and not to belittle the work you have done here, but this is just the baseline diet article. You calc your calories, you set your protein, you set your fats, then move the carbs around to round out your caloric intake.

I have taken that and made a spreadsheet out of the Baseline diet and now simply adjust it to meet my goals. In all honesty this has cured my orthorexic pathology that I picked up from everywhere else on the Interwebz.
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Unread 09-08-2009, 11:31 AM
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And your point is what exactly?

Noting that the baseline diet is about maintenance and this is about fat loss (even if you can determine the same values by modifying the baseline diet) and, news flash, anything I write is going to be based around identical principles.

so...again your point was?
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Unread 09-08-2009, 11:38 AM
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And nothing. I was simply sharing, in the spirit of this being an online community of sorts, and I didn't see you specifically reference those articles and think you should, as you did with all the others.

For me personally, all I have ever wanted was a logical and sane, way to keep my diet and workout plans in sync, and I think that is the biggest area of misunderstanding by everyone I meet at gyms. If I want to build muscle here is how to cycle diet and how to work out. The Baseline Diet gives a gerneric framework that you can manipulate without having to resort to CKD or UD2, although I think UD2 is the best fat loss plan ever.
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You seem to be laboring under the misconception that I write to get 'attaboys' from folks.
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You seem to be laboring under the misconception that I write to get 'attaboys' from folks.
Not consciously. I assume you pay your bills with cash like everyone else. I was not intending to pat you on the back at all. In fact I guess I was suggesting you could do a better job.
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Noting that the baseline diet is about maintenance and this is about fat loss (even if you can determine the same values by modifying the baseline diet) and, news flash, anything I write is going to be based around identical principles.

so...again your point was?
Ok, if pushed, I guess my point is that, if I am going to channel Lyle...

" This is really simple. All you do is take the Baseline diet and modify these parameters based on your goals. Quit making this so *$($*#! difficult when it is all really simple. Now leave me alone to fling poo and speed skate."

There, you asked.
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attaboy lyle! seriously though, this is a great article to show to newbies or anyone who gets bogged down in the details seeking "optimization". there is one error i noticed, you misplaced a parenthesis here:

"That is, providing sufficient dietary protein on a diet was truly the key to limiting (or preventing the loss of body protein during fat loss)."

should be placed after "preventing".
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Got it, thanks
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Great pair of articles, thanks Lyle.

Some typo's:

When setting protein requirements for very overweight individuals:
"Assuming no activity, as little as 0.7 g/k (~1.5 g/kg) may be sufficient."

I think the 0.7 g/k is supposed to be g/lb

Also 8th paragraph under Setting Dietary Fat Intake: "the list of what you can eat cane becoem very small"

And the very next paragraph: "while dietary fat does’nt blunt hunger" should be 'doesn't'

Last paragraph in that same section has a 'teh'

Final one *ducks head*: last but one paragraph in the final section: "overweight individuals can be insulin sensitivity and lean folks can be insulin resistant)"

I think that should be "insulin sensitive"
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Got 'em all, thanks. And you missed 'appopriate' twice
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