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Hmm, you seem to be suggesting a diet where you overeat carbs for 24 hours while keeping fat low...I should write a book about that or something

cough cough UD2
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Thanks JMo87, I would of wonder this as well.
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I realize that in the face of depletion training + large deficit + low carbs, overeating CHO+PRO wont cause fat gain. The question is whether the same can be said about "normal" conditions i.e. low-medium training volume + maintenance calories + medium carbs.

In other words, for lean individuals, do refeeds have any utility while not "dieting" i.e. eating at maintenance?

Basically I want to know if I can eat cereal and bagels all day (within reason, say 3-4g/lb BW) from time to time without gaining fat.
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Mmmm....cereal...
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I realize that in the face of depletion training + large deficit + low carbs, overeating CHO+PRO wont cause fat gain. The question is whether the same can be said about "normal" conditions i.e. low-medium training volume + maintenance calories + medium carbs.

In other words, for lean individuals, do refeeds have any utility while not "dieting" i.e. eating at maintenance?

Basically I want to know if I can eat cereal and bagels all day (within reason, say 3-4g/lb BW) from time to time without gaining fat.
Hmm, a book about the concept of refeeding....
cough cough flexible dieting.
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Hmm, a book about the concept of refeeding....
cough cough flexible dieting.
That's it, you made the list.
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What about fructose? How does fructose get metabolized in a prolonged carb
overfeeding? When you eat high carb diet in the real world a lot of the carb will
contain sugar (i.e. sugary cereal for breakfast, smoothie, etc).
How does the body handle the
fructose component of sugar? Does 30% of fructose gets converted to fat via DNL
according to DR Lustig. You may know Dr Lustig from his popular youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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One of the rules of refeeding: keep fructose below 50g (or 100g sucrose, as it's 50% fructose)

As for Dr. LOLstig, read this and this
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What about fructose? How does fructose get metabolized in a prolonged carb
overfeeding? When you eat high carb diet in the real world a lot of the carb will
contain sugar (i.e. sugary cereal for breakfast, smoothie, etc).
How does the body handle the
fructose component of sugar? Does 30% of fructose gets converted to fat via DNL
according to DR Lustig. You may know Dr Lustig from his popular youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
If I recall correctly, fluctose replenish the liver glycogen.
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What about fructose? How does fructose get metabolized in a prolonged carb
overfeeding? When you eat high carb diet in the real world a lot of the carb will
contain sugar (i.e. sugary cereal for breakfast, smoothie, etc).
How does the body handle the
fructose component of sugar? Does 30% of fructose gets converted to fat via DNL
according to DR Lustig. You may know Dr Lustig from his popular youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Lustig is wrong about absolutlely everything he says. Read Alan's destruction of him for the lolz. Or you could just read my research review on HFCS that is ON THE MAIN SITE.
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What about fructose? How does fructose get metabolized in a prolonged carb
overfeeding? When you eat high carb diet in the real world a lot of the carb will
contain sugar (i.e. sugary cereal for breakfast, smoothie, etc).
How does the body handle the
fructose component of sugar? Does 30% of fructose gets converted to fat via DNL
according to DR Lustig. You may know Dr Lustig from his popular youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Alan Aragon busted his claims already:

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/0...tose-alarmism/
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