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Unread 05-21-2010, 07:56 AM
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:11 AM
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This is complex even by your standards.

look at some pratical issues -> look at some practical issues

In my family people are chronically obese. Some have multiple heart attacks, bypasses, etc. But only one of them exercises (a couple hours a day) at very low intensity. I've give anything to get the rest of them started doing something.

Can't wait to see the next article in this series.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:15 AM
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Really, complex? I really tried my best to keep it simplified. And thanks for the typo correction.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:17 AM
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Really, complex? I really tried my best to keep it simplified. And thanks for the typo correction.
Complex in the sense that I need to print it out and keep it with my stack of your articles that have to be re-read to be fully absorbed. Also complex in the sense that it's beyond my circle of knowledge. It's a good thing -- I get to learn.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:28 AM
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Ok, I gotcha. This was a bit of deep physiology but it's only relevant inasmuch as its sets up part 2.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:39 AM
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This is such an excellent piece. As someone who was formerly obese, I always note with interest how these matters are discussed. I'm really impressed with the respect and understanding you show in the article. It seems like many health and fitness people look at the obese as a great source of income, but a lazy, careless individual who did the whole thing to themselves. They don't realize, that we, the chubby people trying our best to make a change, actually know the distaste they feel for us, but we do.

I especially liked this part:

"But I am NOT using this to try to suggest any sort of negative fashion as if obesity is some sort of defective condition. That is, the word ‘defect’ tends to have very negative connotations (in the same way that the literal meaning of ‘abnormal’ and the connotations that it carries are different) and I am absolutely NOT using the term in that sense. Are we clear? I’m using the term literally here, not connotatively. And that is too a word."

I have quite a few people I want to refer to this article, and I really look forward to the next one.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:40 AM
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So would ASP and insulin resistance go hand in hand? If insulin resistance causes a lot of fatty acids to float around in the bloodstream, then should I assume that ASP sensitivity is also impaired (otherwise the fatty acids would still get stored)? If my understanding is correct, ASP can store fat in the absence of insulin (or at least with insulin at basal levels - not sure which).

Also, if this is beyond the scope of the article, it’s cool I was just curious.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 08:45 AM
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Dunno offhand, haven't looked at the ASP literature in a while.

And Daisygirl, as I've come to even more recognize the complete dumbfounding illiteracy of the Internet, I'm finding it more critical to really spell out what I mean. Even there, I guarantee you that someone on some forum will go "Lyle McDonald says the obese are defective". Because people are idiots.
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True. People are idiots.

But I was actually complimenting your kindness and sensitivity about the topic.
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Unread 05-21-2010, 12:54 PM
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would require a full article an I wonít say -> and

A lot of ,'s where ;'s would have been proper like: Itís possible to see even higher numbers, -> ;

In this vein, one of the major adaptation -> adaptations

Now a question that always raises itís -> its

more sense then throwing them into the grinder. than
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