BodyRecomposition Support Forums  

Go Back   BodyRecomposition Support Forums > General information > Articles on the Main Site
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Unread 10-11-2010, 06:50 AM
mrlakramondas's Avatar
mrlakramondas mrlakramondas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,815
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
The problem that I see is that progressing in one of the three hypertrophy factors (tension, fatigue, damage) can't be done without limiting the others. I mean that if you focus on tension increases, you can't do too much volume (fatigue) or superslow eccentrics (damage). If you focus on fatigue, you wont progress much in weigth increases (tension).

Probably the best would be to focus on one factor at a time, and let the others at maintenance.
that will depend on how much fatigue and damage that is needed to grow and the factors overlap.

there are also other questions such as do you need to do things in a certain order to optimize growth.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread 10-11-2010, 07:48 AM
Sugar Sugar is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 405
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlakramondas View Post
that will depend on how much fatigue and damage that is needed to grow and the factors overlap.

there are also other questions such as do you need to do things in a certain order to optimize growth.
I read in Mattew Perryman's Maximum Muscle book that muscle damage is not necessary for muscle hypertrophy. You can put tension on a muscle without damaging it and see growth.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread 10-11-2010, 08:56 AM
lylemcd's Avatar
lylemcd lylemcd is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 22,641
Default

All training is compromise, to emphasize one aspect of training usually means limiting another. This holds both in the weight room and in other types of training. If you want to focus on volume, intensity is limited; focus on intensity and volume is limited. Etc.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread 10-11-2010, 11:58 AM
tiwas tiwas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 269
Default

Not to mention - if you try to focus on both, both are limited
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread 10-11-2010, 12:56 PM
AnatolyR AnatolyR is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Israel
Posts: 401
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lylemcd View Post
All training is compromise, to emphasize one aspect of training usually means limiting another. This holds both in the weight room and in other types of training. If you want to focus on volume, intensity is limited; focus on intensity and volume is limited. Etc.
So, is there a logic in separating different stimulus by workouts(Layne Norton split or DUP) instead of using both in one(your bulking routine)?
Or even separate them by periods: 3-4 weeks of volume, followed by 3-4 weeks intensity?
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread 10-11-2010, 01:19 PM
tiwas tiwas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 269
Default

Attention. This message will not be repeated. I repeat - this message will not be repeated...HST
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread 10-11-2010, 02:49 PM
lylemcd's Avatar
lylemcd lylemcd is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 22,641
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnatolyR View Post
So, is there a logic in separating different stimulus by workouts(Layne Norton split or DUP) instead of using both in one(your bulking routine)?
Or even separate them by periods: 3-4 weeks of volume, followed by 3-4 weeks intensity?
Thanks
Pros and cons to each approach.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread 10-11-2010, 04:03 PM
frank yangs left quad's Avatar
frank yangs left quad frank yangs left quad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,360
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lylemcd View Post
Pros and cons to each approach.
did you write about the pros and cons somewhere, or will you? in an article i mean.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread 10-11-2010, 05:16 PM
mrlakramondas's Avatar
mrlakramondas mrlakramondas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,815
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnatolyR View Post
So, is there a logic in separating different stimulus by workouts(Layne Norton split or DUP) instead of using both in one(your bulking routine)?
Or even separate them by periods: 3-4 weeks of volume, followed by 3-4 weeks intensity?
Thanks
yes there can be as you get stronger and you simply can't do two all out heavy workouts per week.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread 10-11-2010, 06:16 PM
mrlakramondas's Avatar
mrlakramondas mrlakramondas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,815
Default

I also remember blade mentioning that there is research (komi and/or häkkinen?) showing that for advanced lifters the contrast of heavy and light(er) training is beneficial for growth.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.