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Unread 11-24-2016, 07:27 PM
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Default Carbday over ~16 hours okay?

I'm following the morning training protocol, and start my carbup post-workout Friday morning. I am then to consume between 750-900g of carbs. However, due to the morning protocol, this means that I am only consuming these carbs over about a 16 hour period (8am - midnight), rather than the 24-30h period that evening training people do.

Are there any disadvantages to this? I do have a meal 2-3 hours pre-workout on Saturday morning (as described in the book) but that counts from Saturdays macro's and not the carbday's.
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At worst, muscle glycogen is not fully stored. Doesn't the book give an option to train Friday morning together with a protocol? Also, you may consider training later on the day on Saturday.

Just hit the macros on both days and you're fine. If for some reason you don't hit the macros on Friday, you can add them Saturday morning.

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Yeah I only train mornings like the book covers in the addon section , but it doesn't explain the carbup procedure for morning training well. I can hit the macros over the 16 hour period easily, just didn't know if it was less effective that say doing it over 24h.
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Based on your progress it works pretty well. The body still has 24 hours (Friday morning to Saturday morning) to store the consumed carbs as glycogen, which is plenty of time. You can stretch that window to 30 hours by training Saturday afternoon, but I think it won't make a measurable difference.
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just didn't know if it was less effective that say doing it over 24h.
Are you thinking that there is a maximum rate of 'glycogen absorption' and try to avoid spillover by increasing the carb-load window?
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Are you thinking that there is a maximum rate of 'glycogen absorption' and try to avoid spillover by increasing the carb-load window?
That and hormonal effects from having raised insulin over a longer period of time.
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Are you thinking that there is a maximum rate of 'glycogen absorption' and try to avoid spillover by increasing the carb-load window?
Spillover is caused by excess carbs based on what's needed given LBM and leanness not 16 v 24 hr eating window.
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Spillover is caused by excess carbs based on what's needed given LBM and leanness not 16 v 24 hr eating window.
That's not entirely true, but the logic is sound for the purpose of the diet. As an extreme example if someone was to consume 1000g of carbohydrates over 1 hour vs 24h there would be a noticeable difference.
Strangely, despite consuming 871g of carbohydrates yesterday and 4979 calories, my weight this morning has not rebounded at all. I was 67.4kg yesterday morning prior to workout and carbload. This morning I am 67.5kg. I consumed at least 5L of water (it was a hot day) so there was plenty for the glycogen to bind to.
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