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Unread 10-07-2017, 03:15 PM
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"That's a valid topic to study but it's a logistical nightmare trying to get subjects to come in 6 days a week and staffing to have the research team come in that frequently."[/quote]

Sounds like if he had more staff, this wouldn't be a problem. Indicating the volume of his staff is more important than frequency.
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Unread 10-07-2017, 04:04 PM
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Whatever you do, with decent training, any additional muscle gains virtually crawl to a stop after four to five years. You might as well stop worrying about muscle gains after a while and focus on improving the performance or on doing things with your body that you enjoy and lift the weights to maintain what you have.
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Unread 10-07-2017, 08:08 PM
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Cool. I bought his MAX muscle plan book and his hypertrophy textbook. He has some really cool training routines in there.. im going to start using his upper lower splits.. they are high volume though!
He has programs in his textbook? I have the Max Muscle Plan book, but the program itself seems strange. Too much periodization in my opinion.
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Unread 10-08-2017, 12:09 AM
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He has programs in his textbook? I have the Max Muscle Plan book, but the program itself seems strange. Too much periodization in my opinion.
Yes, the sample programs in the textbook are very similiar to the ones in the max muscle book.. almost exactly the same.. just with a few less sets..

And i agree.. there is so much periodization in the book.. to go from 2 days a week of full body to 3 full body to 4 upper lower to 6 days/week etc.. thats why i am going to just use one of his upper/lower splits and customize it a bit to my needs instead of using the exact periodiarion
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Unread 10-29-2017, 06:44 PM
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There are like a billion articles from Lyle on frequency. Doesn't matter. If you're working out 2 x frequency a week and getting stronger each workout, then good 4 u.
good 4 u.

Except it probably doesn't happen for you. So those saying "yeah bro 2x a week is SIKK" most likely aren't getting much stronger, are doing slowly and look pretty much the same as a result. So 1 x week allows max CNS recovery to get another rep and up weight whereas 2 x a week is usually too taxing, but depends on the lifts.
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Unread 10-31-2017, 01:02 AM
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There are like a billion articles from Lyle on frequency. Doesn't matter. If you're working out 2 x frequency a week and getting stronger each workout, then good 4 u.
good 4 u.

Except it probably doesn't happen for you. So those saying "yeah bro 2x a week is SIKK" most likely aren't getting much stronger, are doing slowly and look pretty much the same as a result. So 1 x week allows max CNS recovery to get another rep and up weight whereas 2 x a week is usually too taxing, but depends on the lifts.
Um. Almost every recommendation LMD ever made for the general population said 2x a week frequency for a muscle group is usually best.

Not sure what your post is suggesting
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Unread 10-31-2017, 01:08 AM
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One word: periodization.

When becoming late intermediate or advanced, some lifts (e.g. deadlift, squat) become pretty taxing and you probably won't recover completely after 2-3 days. Especially the older lifters. That's why advanced programs use some form of periodization. Of course, if you want to go all-out each time, you need more than 2 days rest on such lifts.
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Unread 10-31-2017, 02:33 AM
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One word: periodization.

When becoming late intermediate or advanced, some lifts (e.g. deadlift, squat) become pretty taxing and you probably won't recover completely after 2-3 days. Especially the older lifters. That's why advanced programs use some form of periodization. Of course, if you want to go all-out each time, you need more than 2 days rest on such lifts.
This is correct. Most people will run into issues if they try to go all out on these exercises twice a week at an advanced level
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Unread 10-31-2017, 07:49 AM
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Um. Almost every recommendation LMD ever made for the general population said 2x a week frequency for a muscle group is usually best.

Not sure what your post is suggesting
It's a good general frequency but really things can go higher or lower depending on training status, goals, exercise selection, specific muscle group, etc. It's one thing to hit something like biceps 3 or more times a week but quite another to do it with a larger, more powerful, and more prone to damage muscle group like pecs or hamstrings.

Then some people can't recover so well, or just want to maintain and 1x/week starts becoming a real consideration, etc.
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