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Unread 09-10-2017, 11:35 AM
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That's a really good point, I haven't seen a lateral raise in quite some time. I like those.

I'm gonna look around and see if my new gym has one. Haven't spent any time around the machines.

Most gyms have like 60 ab machines
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Unread 09-10-2017, 01:14 PM
AlphaBettor AlphaBettor is offline
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Originally Posted by BigPecsPeter View Post
I wish my gym had a bloody side raise machine.

The trend these days is for all the flashy "functional movement" stuff. The two machines that always worked the best, being the pec deck and the side raise, have disappeared from gyms left right and centre for their bodybuilding-specific reputation. Really damn annoying.

My gym is so hell bent on avoiding upper body machines that they actually have TWO hamstring curls. TWO. Virtually next to each other. For Pete's sake
Tell me about it. My gym has 4 preacher curl machines that are all pretty much identical. The unfortunate thing is I've always found free weights to be better than machines for curling moves (nothing against machines, arm machines just never seem to fit me).

This gym doesn't have any of the machines I actually want it to have, such as:

Pullover machine
Side delt machine
4-way neck
Hammer hi row or OHP
Some kind of standing calf setup

what can you do.
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Unread 09-11-2017, 12:34 AM
Determinism Determinism is offline
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Originally Posted by AlphaBettor View Post
Side delt machine
Some kind of standing calf setup
Same problem here. No decent side delt machine, no decent calf machine. Horrible. We should start a global movement to enforce and adopt the "proper gym equipment" law.
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Unread 09-11-2017, 10:51 AM
FastEddy FastEddy is offline
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Guess I'm lucky, my gym has most all the old Hammer machines and the Nautilus pullover and side raise machine
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Unread 09-22-2017, 08:06 PM
nsteel nsteel is offline
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EMG and MVP studies show significant side delt activation from seated press behind neck. It ranks ahead of upright rows and machine side laterals.

I can't post a link with this user unfriendly android but Google Bret Contreras EMG and you will get the study.
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Unread 09-23-2017, 09:04 AM
Superlifter Superlifter is offline
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When using the seated side raise machine, you adjust the seat where your shoulders are lined up against the pivot. Well adjustments 3-5 seemed lined up. But for each setting feels different. For example a certain seat adjustment could feel heavy when starting to lift. So where should the weight feel heavy if seat is adjusted correctly?
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