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Unread 11-05-2017, 01:38 PM
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He was quite clear: he gained 1.5lbs in one month. A truly epic bulk

For the record OP, with your stats, if you're bulking according to any sensible guidelines, a weight increase of 1.5lbs should take A MAXIMUM of around half a month. No more than that
Complete idiocy. He never addressed that measurement and if it was an average or a one time measurement. It matters.

Uhhhh as for your second point, have you even read Lyle’s latest article on surplus for muscle gains? 1.5 lbs in a couple of weeks would likely mean fat gain. A beginner would gain about 2 lbs a month if the stars aligned right. He is not a beginner.
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Unread 11-05-2017, 01:46 PM
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Complete idiocy. He never addressed that measurement and if it was an average or a one time measurement. It matters.

Uhhhh as for your second point, have you even read Lyle’s latest article on surplus for muscle gains? 1.5 lbs in a couple of weeks would likely mean fat gain. A beginner would gain about 2 lbs a month if the stars aligned right. He is not a beginner.
"For this past month that I have not been gaining strength on any lifts, I have gained 1.5 lbs"

What about this is unclear?

I didn't realise you were a semi-moron. Thanks for revealing a new side to yourself
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Unread 11-05-2017, 02:41 PM
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Complete idiocy. He never addressed that measurement and if it was an average or a one time measurement. It matters.

Uhhhh as for your second point, have you even read Lyle’s latest article on surplus for muscle gains? 1.5 lbs in a couple of weeks would likely mean fat gain. A beginner would gain about 2 lbs a month if the stars aligned right. He is not a beginner.
You also misunderstood the article. The article said the intermediate could gain 1lb of muscle in a month, and recommended a calorie surplus of 3500 in that month to achieve that. The article does NOT specify what actual weight gain this might equate to. Given increases in fat mass and other non muscle LBM (water etc), that muscle gain of 1lb will usually mean about a 3lb gain in total mass. If somebody is gaining only 1.5lbs in total weight in a month, they are nowhere NEAR 1lb in muscle gain. Especially if they have poor partitioning.

1.5lbs weight gain in half a month, all things going well, is considerably more likely to equate to you having achieved 0.5lbs muscle (the rest will be other LBM and fat etc) than an utterly pathetic gain of 0.75lbs weight in the same period, which is almost definitely not even close to 0.5lbs in actual skeletal muscle
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Unread 11-06-2017, 09:21 PM
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You also misunderstood the article. The article said the intermediate could gain 1lb of muscle in a month, and recommended a calorie surplus of 3500 in that month to achieve that. The article does NOT specify what actual weight gain this might equate to. Given increases in fat mass and other non muscle LBM (water etc), that muscle gain of 1lb will usually mean about a 3lb gain in total mass. If somebody is gaining only 1.5lbs in total weight in a month, they are nowhere NEAR 1lb in muscle gain. Especially if they have poor partitioning.

1.5lbs weight gain in half a month, all things going well, is considerably more likely to equate to you having achieved 0.5lbs muscle (the rest will be other LBM and fat etc) than an utterly pathetic gain of 0.75lbs weight in the same period, which is almost definitely not even close to 0.5lbs in actual skeletal muscle
I see where you're coming from, and you don't want to overly cautious with putting on weight or you might spin your wheels, but even in Helms' Pyramids book, he recommends a rate of monthly weight gain of 0.5 to 1% of bodyweight for intermediates, which is probably what the OP is. So you really don't have to go crazy with the weight gain.
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