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Unread 02-02-2010, 09:04 AM
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Unread 02-02-2010, 09:25 AM
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"In the same way that fitness sometimes continues to fitness after the period of heavy loading"

This needs fixing.

Edit: "as opposed to know when I’m simply usually sure I do"

"The LTDFLE is a bit differen and can last from 4-7 days"

These too.

Otherwise a good, solid article. Thanks.
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got 'em with a few others ,thanks
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Hi Lyle,

A question about this statement:

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In fact, thereís actually even a weird study from back in the late-90ís that saw this although the researchers had no clue what was actually going on (because nutrition researchers donít read enough basic science/endocrinology). In it, folks were dieted hard for 4 weeks and then progressively refed (raising calories over the 5th week towards maintenance). Body weight kept going down in Week 5 despite the gradually increasing calories (as I recall, they didnít measure body composition).
Are you saying that on week 5, they went right back to maintenance, or slowly ramped up to it? It seems like you're implying the latter. So given this, wouldn't it make sense that bodyweight would continue to fall at week 5, since the caloric intake of the experimental group hadn't yet reached maintenance, but was still under and in the process of being ramped up?

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding here.
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Gradual increase.
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Gradual increase.
Right. So given that, and given that on week 5 they were still below maintenance, just at a smaller deficit... wouldn't it make sense that they continued to lose weight?

Or is what you're saying that the rate at which they continued to lose remained the same as the preceding weeks?
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I have experienced LTDFLE 3 or 4 times and now understand how it occurred. What had happened was I would go on a zone based diet for 12 weeks at a time basically for bjj competition to help make weight. For reference just an amateur, not a professional athlete. During my weight loss period I adhered to the zone principles 90 to 95 percent of the time, with no alcohol. Well as soon as I got done with the 12 week program and competition the thing I would do is go out, celebrate, and have a few margaritas. Each of these margaritas from what I have been told has between 500 to 600 calories, so I roughly assumed that I was getting an extra 400 to 500 carbohydrates(3-4 margaritas) the rest of the night with fat free chips and salsa. All I know is the next morning and a few days after that I was disgustingly ripped, urinating alot, and here is the kicker going down in weight. I know it stopped after the 3rd or 4th day but was shocked as to how defined I looked and then started eating a 1/2 gallon of ice cream every day for the next week get bloated, eat normal and look strong a month later. After reading your article it makes sense how LTDFLE happened to me.
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Can the LTDFLE cause hunger because you're still in a 'fat burning mode'?

I think may experience it at the moment.
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Hunger is way too complicated to give a simple answer to that question.
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Both this and the 'whoosh' article have really allowed me to piece together the rapid changes I have seen in my physique over the past week.

I had been dieting hard for the better of 14 weeks from early March until just recently. I did refeed once/week but kept cals very low and busted my I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post. lifting 3x per week and also included cardio on my off days (usually 3 session LI, 1 HIIT). I was absolutely burned out towards the end, the only thing that kept me going was a four day vacation which meant time off from the diet, training and cardio.

I came back and started lifting and doing cardio this past week but instead of continuing with the keto approach I read up on EOD refeeds and decided to implement them on my lifting days seeing as I am sub 10% BF right now. The changes have been nothing short of drastic. Here are the things I have noted over the past week:

1. body feels tighter
2. two new ab veins
3. excellent sense of self and increased well being
4. increased gym performance
5. leaner than before
6. no mood swings
7. still not taking naps
8. sleeping trouble (less sound sleep)
9. getting less sleep (7-8 hours)
10. waking up early yet again (first time in weeks or maybe a month)
11. greater sensitivity to how my body is reacting to different stimuli (ie lifting, cardio, carbs, meal timing, caffeine, sleep)
12. Regaining desire to learn and better myself

Obviously a few of them are purely aesthetic but the most amazing thing is the major elevation in my mood and general sense of well being. Admittedly I found myself in a funk for weeks leading up to this point and it seems with the strategic implementation of carbs around training and a cyclic caloric intake I have found something that should work very well for me moving forward.

Just want to say thanks Lyle. This forum has been a great addition to the small amount of forums worth a damn on the net. Keep up the great work. AGTFD has been a godsend for me, I now am not worried about sticking to a reasonable diet while having a good time during what I am considering a 'maintenance' phase while I enjoy the summer.
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