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Unread 01-20-2017, 06:56 AM
sfczarnecki sfczarnecki is offline
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Take it easy. Water retention can vary widely, regardless of whether you are dieting or bulking. Consider it a basically uncontrollable aspect of your physique. You may influence it, but you can't control it. If it is abnormally high, and stress related, and refeeds do not help, the other thing you can count on is time. It will all get better.

In the meantime, don't do anything stupid or very different. Remember to be rational. You are clearly thinking emotionally, and people are trying to tell you. So you wanna know what causes it so you can solve it; I get it. But you can't control it, and that's the answer. I gave you a short list of variables, but the best advice anyone can give you now is to get over it. Worse things have happened to better people. I've probably had worse. I'd say it was no big deal. In fairness, I don't let people take pictures of my body all the time. Are you one of those people? If so, my condolences.


On the other hand, you might have a terrible disease and be dying.

I think the basic info is explained on the main site under whooshes.

THIS!

I need to save this post and read it once a week....
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Unread 01-20-2017, 08:11 AM
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THIS!

I need to save this post and read it once a week....
Amen.
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Unread 01-27-2017, 04:07 PM
fssqqqq32222 fssqqqq32222 is offline
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Its been over a month and 2 weeks and im still looking fat as I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.. But i'm feeling much better now both mentally and in terms of workouts and such. Thinking back as a cat 1 rfl is not really worth it in my opinion. Id say stick with a moderate deficit for a longer period. Then again its cause impatient I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.s like me the book was made. Dont get me wrong the program works great. But coming off it ohhhh boy prepare for a mental and physical I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.I need to read the rules post.storm. Anyway with this diet i saw ab veinz for the first time but i also experienced eating disorder and also body dismorphia coupled with extreme gastric problems for the first time too. So make what you will Lol.
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Unread 05-24-2019, 02:27 PM
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https://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=35420

i'm in the exact same situation i think. if someone can chime in on this i would really appreciate it
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Unread 08-01-2019, 07:53 AM
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I've done a lot of experimenting in this andmaybe I can help.

I'm currently on cat 1 border (15%) and have done RFL many times in short bursts to get me down (it's a marathon not a sprint).

Here are a few things that maybe the missing piece of information:
1) I can gain 10 pounds in 1 day alone if I take in enough carbs and salt. It's disheartening but it's the way I work.
2) That 10 pounds might take a week to come off fully or 2 days after continuing the diet. or 2 weeks. Sometimes a few pounds just sticks around

Here are a few things to consider
1) RFL after a period of time gives you an artifically low weight measurement. WHat I mean to say is that it that you have shed a lot of your water weight from fat, muscles and other stuff. That's why after a few days of being on it, your muscles look deflated
2) RFL for extended periods of time, messes with your hormone levels and temporarily suppresses your TDEE from a fully maintenance or levelled out person.
3) Also related to 2, it seems your body , in fighting starvation or dying, will prioritize putting on fat vs. sending the extra calories to muscle (unless you are doing UD 2.0 method) when you eat crazy after being on a diet.

That's why lyle recommends a reduction of 10% of TDEE when going to maintenance from RFL i think.

Ok combining 1 and 2 and 3 means, yes you did gain some fat probably depending on how many extra calories you ate because it's easier to gain fat when coming off a diet but also your body wants to have it's water weight back for your muscles and such. Depending on your body that could be many pounds (in my case 10 or so).

It also makes sense that if there is a pouch of fat in your belly that it would be swollen too and look like more fat since there is very little fat on you, it can be absorbed there as well.

I think some fat cells can suck in water? I don't know but I think that's the nature of swishes and wooshes so...

You want to shed it back to verify...try eating at maintenance but cut carbs down to almost zero for several days. See what that does. Lower your salt intake (be careful though). Follow some guides on how to shed water weight before a competition like the MMA fighters and bodybuilders do. Have a glass of wine or 2.

Also try doing a circumference measurement on your leg say prior to losing weight and one when you have lost the weight but refed/carbed up but weigh the same - I think that fat cells containing fat and fat cells containing water have a different volume so the circumference test shouldn't be the same. That's more evidence.

Experiment with your body. I have experienced all the above and have verified to myself many times that it's mostly water weight. Sometimes it's STICKY water weight but water weight none the less. Just got to have faith.
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