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Unread 05-18-2017, 06:31 AM
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So I have attached pics of Day 1 UD2 and "afters" which are just before my second carb load: http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=33175


Quick Background: prior UD2 I dieted moderately for 8 weeks and then did the transition phase as written in the UD2 Addendum.

Prior Weight: ~162
Current Weight: ~156

I was wondering, hypothetically, when do you think I should stop dieting?

Plan is to be at maintenance for a month and then go into a 10-15% surplus. I ask because I am not sure if I truly should just add some mass first or get as lean as possible first.
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Unread 05-18-2017, 07:20 PM
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You look good. No reason to get leaner at 156, you just risk getting run down. Stop and add mass.
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Unread 05-19-2017, 01:02 AM
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But he is 5'9, which could well mean 5'8 (not being rude; it's extremely common to automatically and without realising it overestimate one's height by half an inch to an inch)

At that height, cutting a bit further than 156 may not be too detrimental. Still not TOO lean tbh

Either way, a bulk would be good sometime soon. In my view, you could probably look fairly good even at 175lbs if you increased your muscle mass
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Unread 05-19-2017, 05:47 AM
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couple more weeks. you're leanish now, couple more lbs will make it pop
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Unread 05-19-2017, 07:41 AM
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What are your goals?

If you're not competing, you're lean enough in my opinion. But my opinion doesn't matter, yours does.

Personally, if I can't maintain a certain level of leanness, then it's not worth pushing it farther. There's a tipping point where, at 5'9" and being a natural, you may end up looking worse despite being even leaner. Especially at that body weight.

Also, if you intelligently add a surplus (sounds like you are) when you bulk, you shouldn't get too fat. You can always try to go leaner down the road, and this time with more muscle mass.

I didn't check the log, but was your UD2 stint 6 - 8 weeks? If so, that's about 14 - 16 weeks of dieting...that's long enough considering you're lean right now, if you were fatter I would say sure, take a break and hit it again.
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Unread 05-19-2017, 08:38 AM
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What are your goals?

If you're not competing, you're lean enough in my opinion. But my opinion doesn't matter, yours does.

Personally, if I can't maintain a certain level of leanness, then it's not worth pushing it farther. There's a tipping point where, at 5'9" and being a natural, you may end up looking worse despite being even leaner. Especially at that body weight.

Also, if you intelligently add a surplus (sounds like you are) when you bulk, you shouldn't get too fat. You can always try to go leaner down the road, and this time with more muscle mass.

I didn't check the log, but was your UD2 stint 6 - 8 weeks? If so, that's about 14 - 16 weeks of dieting...that's long enough considering you're lean right now, if you were fatter I would say sure, take a break and hit it again.
I am actually only in the midst of my third week and if progress continues as it has I believe I will hit 154-155 (1-1.5lb loss) by the morning of my next refeed. Based off responses here I think I just might end the UD2 and go for maintenance for a month before a 10-15% surplus. I was gravitating more that direction anyhow
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