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Unread 09-11-2013, 07:30 PM
beatle beatle is offline
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So dinitrophenolate is okay, right? (As opposed to dinitrophenol) Yes, I read this whole thread and dinitrophenolate came up two pages ago, just confirming.

*edit* I think I found the answer to back up what was stated early: yes, this is the crystal version. Looks like it can be had for $84 a kg. hmmmm... not sure...

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Unread 09-11-2013, 10:08 PM
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Ya the paper is supposedly:

Am J Ophthalmol. 1957 Jun;43(6):936-46.
Biochemical studies on cataract. VI. Production of cataracts in guinea pigs with dinitrophenol.
OGINO S, YASUKURA K.

But Pubmed doesn't even have an abstract.

Most of us were getting quoted $50-60 for the crystal, not sure where you're getting it shipped to though?

I wonder if Dinitro-othro-cresol would have lower levels of the metabolite by virtue of having it supposedly having a similar effectiveness at 1/3rd the [], as from the best I can tell it was a semiquinone. DNOC is even more of a pain to find though, only found some Indonesian supplier with a MOQ of 8 tons or something.

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Unread 09-12-2013, 06:44 AM
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My capped poison has arrived. Time to get myself vit E, C and NAC, then I guess I can start.
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Unread 09-12-2013, 10:20 AM
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Most of us were getting quoted $50-60 for the crystal, not sure where you're getting it shipped to though?
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Is this shipped? The quote is from a supplier that was listed earlier in this thread.
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Unread 09-12-2013, 12:24 PM
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Is this shipped? The quote is from a supplier that was listed earlier in this thread.
Yes shipped, not including western union fees
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Unread 09-12-2013, 08:15 PM
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So dinitrophenolate is okay, right? (As opposed to dinitrophenol) Yes, I read this whole thread and dinitrophenolate came up two pages ago, just confirming.

*edit* I think I found the answer to back up what was stated early: yes, this is the crystal version. Looks like it can be had for $84 a kg. hmmmm... not sure...
yes it's the Crystal version as previously clarified.
In addition pay attention to the number prefix, as you saw, there is other compounds that share the name dinitrophenol like 3,5-dinitrophenol, etc. there's a handfull of them, same for the phenolate. What interest us is the 2,4 either phenol or phenolate.

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Ya the paper is supposedly:

Am J Ophthalmol. 1957 Jun;43(6):936-46.
Biochemical studies on cataract. VI. Production of cataracts in guinea pigs with dinitrophenol.
OGINO S, YASUKURA K.

But Pubmed doesn't even have an abstract.

Most of us were getting quoted $50-60 for the crystal, not sure where you're getting it shipped to though?

I wonder if Dinitro-othro-cresol would have lower levels of the metabolite by virtue of having it supposedly having a similar effectiveness at 1/3rd the [], as from the best I can tell it was a semiquinone. DNOC is even more of a pain to find though, only found some Indonesian supplier with a MOQ of 8 tons or something.
Yep that would be the research that solved the puzzle.
Conc. made a brief resume in his post here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post15139271

I read another paper, the full text, that reviews the cataract issue explaining all the extreme methods attempted to replicate the problem (which failed as I said). I thought I had bookmarked here but no luck.

As for DNOC, it was adopted in UK while US followed the DNP patch. It's stronger meaning it gives the same effect with a smaller dosage. It was also yellowish and shared the same array of side-effects, including cataracts, prompting it's suspension for similar reasons...

Anyway since the bulk of research was made with DNP, I would not take DNOC even if freely given to me lol.

PS: Still assessing the difference between crystal and powder. I shall post something about that soon.
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Unread 09-13-2013, 03:41 AM
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jesus, at night I wake up every 2-3 hours to pee.

glycogen depletion or what is this crap

annoying as hell
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Unread 09-13-2013, 05:32 AM
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jesus, at night I wake up every 2-3 hours to pee.

glycogen depletion or what is this crap

annoying as hell
You on creatine?
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Unread 09-13-2013, 08:01 AM
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jesus, at night I wake up every 2-3 hours to pee.

glycogen depletion or what is this crap

annoying as hell
Same here. It will fade after a couple days. At least for me it did.
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Unread 09-13-2013, 01:08 PM
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DNP ready, multivitamin ready, NAC ready. Tomorrow the fun starts.
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