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Unread 12-12-2010, 07:34 PM
Onefiver Onefiver is offline
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All of them right now FTW!
I've heard too many people say different things than what hes saying, so I'm going to disregard, otherwise he would be more popular
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Unread 12-13-2010, 07:51 AM
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I bought the following. But I also included my experiences with the books to help with your progression, etc. Quite frankly I had experience with lots of speciialized diet/workout routines, but never really got to that sub 10% level (perfect 6 pack, etc) nor really put on good muscle. Until I read Lyle's books...

The Protein book
Stubborn Fat

The protein book, is all about protein and answers nearly everything you need to know about Pre/Post workout training as it relates to protein and carbs and how much. This book will keep you out of trouble here on the forums (hint hint hint).

The rest are all about diets, for instance:
1. Keto - is obviously a very detailed diet specific to that protocol. If you choose this path, Lyle's book is the best. I have done all sorts of variations on these and Lyle specifically does the carb ups right and gets the workouts timed right to maximixe that. In the end, I realized that keto doesn't really matter if you eat at maint or above. There is no magic here if you are trying to lose weight and not in a deficit.

2. Then you read UD2 and realize you don't really need Keto per se to lose weight, but what is really good about not just low carbs, but low calories and why high reps work in the right environment. Just do this. This to me was the nirvana of why you cut carbs, but then you get a glimpse of what you have to do to create an anabolic environment. This also lays the groundwork for more advanced concepts you still see in Intermittent Fasting, carb cycling, and the mythical recomp. When you want to get ready for beach time, this is the best plan (IMO). You will look the absolute best in the least amount of time. But you gotta put the work in. If you want a 6 pack, this is the plan. DOn't think, just do it. IT just works, and there are reasons why that Lyle won't tell you because then you will tinker.

3. Stubborn Fat - after awhile you start to realize you have some fat that just won't go away. This tells you why and how to get rid of it. This is not a structured diet per se, instead this set of "options" tell you how to maximize fat burning based on timing and style of workouts, when to use, AND HOW NOT TO OVERDO IT. I can't stress that enough. If you just start layering these on top of other things you could very easily make yourself very unhappy.

After 2&3 you now know everything you need to know about getting ripped. Cancel all your magazine subscriptions and quit reading junk on the internet. You can now sleep good at night knowing that you WILL get ripped when the time is right and have much more free time since you don't need to surf the net looking for ways to get ripped from the bros.

With all that said, I have not read Flexible Dieting and think that might be a great place to start (in retrospect). Establishing maintenance, and being able to control your diet when you have no specific goal such as dieting (get ripped), etc, will keep you sane.
Wondering if 6 was 9...

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Unread 08-28-2013, 02:14 PM
skycop00 skycop00 is offline
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Hello All...

Glad to be here. I am 49 and quite familiar with weight training. I also play ice hockey twice a week (Sun and Thurs) in men's recreational leagues. I am trying to lose bodyfat and previously attempted low carb eating with 1 refeed/week. Didn't work for hockey at all. I assume I was doing it all wrong.

I was wondering what IS possible within Lyle's methods and where could I start in his library of books to help?

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