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Unread 03-29-2017, 10:18 PM
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Well, this is a conundrum.

The problem isn't what she's doing, it's what she wants, and how it aligns with reality.


While she refuses to change her habits, her body will not change.

The more experienced you are, the harder it is to accept new possibilities.

Here's what you can do to lose muscle:

Less protein
Less resistance training
Less food
Excessive cardio/deficit

Less protein won't work? You better be ready to try one of the other options, then. If not, try corticosteroids, and you're crazy.


The answer is, compete in a heavier weightclass. Or don't.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 01:06 AM
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In other words, she doesn't want a real challenge?
Fighting in UFC is a challenge enough. She wants to win.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 01:17 AM
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Well, this is a conundrum.

The problem isn't what she's doing, it's what she wants, and how it aligns with reality.
That's what I think too, but you know what professional athletes are like - they always want more from their bodies, always pushing and testing how far they can go and than trying to go even farther. You cannot be "reasonable" to be able to do that.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 01:36 AM
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If she really wants to fight in the lower weight class, she has to do one (or more) of the following:
- Create a caloric deficit, calories prevent muscle breakdown (especially carbs).
- Reduce protein intake, protein prevents muscle breakdown.
- Limit weight training, weight training prevents muscle breakdown.
- Increase cardio, stimulates muscle breakdown.
- Optionally, consider supplements to either increase the deficit, improve recovery or increase muscle breakdown. Make sure it's WADA approved.

Please note that if she has to perform intense training and fight regularly, don't take the fast lane approach. Do it slowly and consistently until the desired LBM has been reached.

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Unread 03-30-2017, 06:03 AM
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Fighting in UFC is a challenge enough. She wants to win.
Basically, she wants to do what she's claiming people in the higher division do.

And no, strategically avoiding greater challenges is NOT the attitude of a true 'winner'.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 08:10 AM
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I could be remembering incorrectly but I think depletion workouts can help here - something like, deplete the muscles then do only cardio (moderate and long) on lowered calories and lowered protein intake, no weight training.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 09:41 AM
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I could be remembering incorrectly but I think depletion workouts can help here - something like, deplete the muscles then do only cardio (moderate and long) on lowered calories and lowered protein intake, no weight training.
This will lead also to the fat loss that she's trying to avoid.

Look, basically, she is already lean and wants to drop muscle without dropping further fat. It isn't going to happen. Period. So she should suck it up and stop trying to find easier ways to win. Go compete in the damn category you naturally fall in.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 10:14 AM
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Basically, she wants to do what she's claiming people in the higher division do.

And no, strategically avoiding greater challenges is NOT the attitude of a true 'winner'.
She's not on gear, she cannot gain five more kilos of muscle at a whim to be able to compete against girls that are 15 kilos heavier than her in the offseason. And accusing an athlete of her caliber and dedication of not having the right mentality is an unproductive endeavour. She will find the way to succeeed. I just wanted to know if there exists any trick that she has not thought of that could help her.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 10:25 AM
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She's not on gear, she cannot gain five more kilos of muscle at a whim to be able to compete against girls that are 15 kilos heavier than her in the offseason. And accusing an athlete of her caliber and dedication of not having the right mentality is an unproductive endeavour. She will find the way to succeeed. I just wanted to know if there exists any trick that she has not thought of that could help her.
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Unread 03-30-2017, 11:00 AM
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From what I recall reading Menno's training for women article women are less likely to lose muscle on a cut. So she just might be out of luck.
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