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Unread 09-25-2017, 07:20 AM
BigPecsPeter BigPecsPeter is offline
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Originally Posted by BEATMEOUTTAME View Post
Very helpful and insightful! You are a great wealth of information in the community!
To be fair, you keep writing things that, aside from being bizarre, are tending to verge on the outright insane
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Unread 09-25-2017, 09:25 PM
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Intervals are best for improving VO2 max.

And there is conflicting info online as to whether squats increase VO2 max. If you'll notice I said IIRC. As in, I'm not sure about this... IIRC means "hey if someone knows, please chime in". Nothing insane about it.
Still haven't seen anyone prove/disprove or explain why squats are or are not good for improving VO2 max. It seems to me they'd be a little on the short end of time necessary for a strong adaptation though.

I know it takes a TON of LISS to improve VO2 max only slightly.
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Unread 09-25-2017, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lightng View Post
I find it ridiculous that my heart/lungs were in such bad shape when my exercise regimen consisted of just weight lifting + sedentary lifestyle.

Back in March I ran 2.3 miles at a 10:30 min/mile pace and was gassed at the end. My heart rate averaged in the high 160's (well above lactate threshold lmao).

Since then i've run upward of 600 miles and currently average 10hrs a day. I'm training for a marathon and my cardiovascular system is in a much better position ~45 VO2max but I'm still in shock that I had the endurance of a senior citizen.

Even now, I'm pretty sure I've only gotten myself up to the "average" capability of a dude my age.

I'm honestly in utter disbelief at how people can completely neglect aerobic work at all. Unless i'm some kind of genetic anomaly, I wouldn't even consider myself healthy.

Is this an n=1 experience? Or do you guys who never do cardio have good enough aerobics to stand up and run a decent 5k, 10k, etc?

(I was healthy at the time btw aged 24, 5'8 and 150lbs)
How old are you now? 24 or maybe 25? Am I reading this right? If you're talking about a difference between now and March, you're going to have to be a little more patient, I think.
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Unread 12-08-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alcahuetej View Post
VO2 max can be measured during a metabolic test with an oxygen mask hooked up to a machine that measures your oxygen consumption. The place I went to had a specific protocol we went through, slowly ramping up the intensity on the treadmill while wearing the mask. They also did it while cycling if you were more interested in that.

Mine peaked at 58.5 because I'm awesome.

Qualifying for Boston is fairly difficult in my opinion. I think most people could slog their way through a marathon, but I don't think most could run a qualifying time.

I ran it in 3:48 and definitely couldn't qualify right now...because I'm not awesome. I think qualifying for my age (35) right now is ~3:05.

Google metabolic testing in your area, there might be someone nearby who does the testing if you're really curious. I only did it because I wanted the numbers that I plugged into my Polar running watch to be accurate.
58.5 is high. Was that all from marathon training?

Had mine tested at 55.1 today at age 46. Never have trained for anything except tons of stupid hiit and other long cardio protocols for attempted fat loss. It’s simply a residual of stupid training leading nowhere by eating more to compensate.

Also, had second Dexa. I’m leaner than a month ago but body fat increased from 8.2% (knew that was off and lower than I actually was/am) to 8.9%. In the +/-2% error band. Stupid to get second test so close together.
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