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![]() If you taking 200mg per day, you need more than one gram at once to die.
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![]() And, what happens if some goofball making DNP in his bathroom accidentally puts a decimal in the wrong place? Most drugs on the market have LD50's Far above the therapeutic dose. Such a small safety margin is scary when we're talking FDA approved drugs, let alone black market. This is my position as a new physician, and just FYI when I was a bit more ignorant in the past I would have used it (and hoped to), if only I had access.
Your health, your life, your choice. Do what you will. But, realize that your anecdote does not reassure me, nor do I imagine it would anybody else with an MD, DO, or PharmD. |
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#104
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Do you live all of your life in this kind of fearful way? |
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It was a full-fast day which I shall break tomorrow(sat.) at evening... around 14/15h (or about 40h fast). Did my extended LISS routine at evening (vigorous walk with lots of uphill/downhill segments) which usually burns off around 800Kcal (12km/7.5miles in 1:40h). And while external temperature (weather) dropped today, I was feeling warm. At today's temperature (15c) this walk would drop my weight by about 1lbs (water/transpiration). It was one full Kg (2.2lbs) which would happen only on a day with temp. over 20c. (yes I control water loss by weighing before/after workout and more so being now on DNP). Thirstiness subsided and even after this 2.2lbs drop I wasn't exceptionally thirsty. My body seems to have reached a point of equilibrium with that. One advantage of sticking with low carb (or VLCD/PSMF) is that this depress immune system and greatly reduces allergic reactions of any kind. I used to have Allergic Rhinitis.... never again a single episode since I started my weight loss... crash dieting/PSMF'efing all the way down from 286lbs (I'm 6') to my actual 170lbs (still around 16~18%bf). The weight reduction probably had the biggest impact since excess fat is linked with inflammation. But regardless.... people will suggest all kinds of anti-histamines to take along DNP while lowering carbs/cals can have the same if not better effects. Well I took a 2nd capsule at night and few hours later the temp promptly raised. Despite the midnight cold temps I'm feeling hot. Not exaggerated hot but despite the colder temp I'm with some mild transpiration going on. My guess is those 2 caps today amounted to anywhere from 300mg to 400mg real dosage. Will stick with 1 tomorrow because DNP is still accumulating in the system and I will have clear picture of effects x dosage by the beginning of next week. Still being accustomed with VLCDs in general, coupled with lots of cardio, DNP is being well tolerable. No brutal lethargy or anything of sorts...(but the extra energy drain is sometimes noticeable, but transient). The warm feeling is also an excellent psychological reassurance that I'm going at full speed toward my objectives and all the effort will be worth it. I will report back weight variations following this regimen at some point next week. I expect between 2~3lbs solid weight loss weekly... but I don't rule out progress being masked for 15~20+ days due to some eventual water retention. We will see. Quote:
Dosage accuracy is indeed off in almost all of the "suppliers" of capped DNP you may find out. I took this into consideration as previously mentioned. Quote:
Typical caps used have room for 0.5g of stuff.... so worst case scenario, if a supplier filled a 500mg capsule with pure DNP, you would not die.... surely you would get a nasty surprise but not death. Do consider that back at 1930s DNP capsules were sold OTC, consumed by hundreds of thousands of people.... common people, average Joe and Jane (housewifes, office workers, etc) and cases of death by overdose was very rare.... unless intentional suicide is the goal (which happened with DNP as it happens with any drug) overdosing is not a question of "minor mistake". And like I said, almost always those pre-capped DNP being sold on the net tend to err on the downside. And it doesn't hurt to take a look at the contents of the capsule to have a guesstimate of the actual dosage. I did here and in both cases it was evident that between filler substance and actual DNP the dosage was around 200mg. |
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![]() It's true. I didn't check to see if my source was a licensed pharm and now I'm posting from beyond the grave. Hell feels surprisingly cool after taking 1g DNP.
Last edited by 4oclocker : 05-18-2013 at 12:02 AM. |
#107
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![]() Try the same with 120\20\200\7.5 clenbuterol, yohimbine, caffeine, bromo, fasted cardio to achieve new level of sensation.
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#108
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When risk is additive, it's only wise to eliminate those things that provide little relative benefit to your life for a relatively great risk. Especially if you plan on staying out of the annual list of Darwin Awards. |
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We can argue capsule sizes all day, 0 vs 00 and how much volume vs mass each one holds, but the reality is that we've got people taking up to 8mg/kg of DNP and others dying with as little as 20mg/kg, probably lower. This surely isn't weed. I do imagine the vast majority of people will continue to successfully cycle without any major adverse effect, but to those of you convincing yourself it "safe" you're completely delusional and/or ignorant. That's my only point. I really don't care what you do to yourself or how it ends up. I don't care to nanny you. See last paragraph above. P.S. I suggest you get your dental work done in Mexico, too. Last edited by trn450 : 05-18-2013 at 01:35 AM. |
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crossing the road here can be far more dangerous then 200mg dnp.
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein |
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