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Unread 01-24-2011, 03:40 PM
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Default Lyle, do we really need to eat all our veggies

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The facts are these. There are 13 vitamins and fruit is good for one of them, vitamin C.
Vegetables offer some vitamins vitamin C and the vegetable form of the fat-soluble vitamins A and vitamin K1 but your body will be able to absorb these only if you add some fat, such as butter or olive oil.
The useful forms of A and K I need to read the rules post.retinol and K2 respectively are found only in animal foods. As for minerals, there are 16 and fruit is good for one of them, potassium, which is not a substance we are often short of, as it is found in water.
Vegetables can be OK for iron and calcium but the vitamins and minerals in animal foods (meat, fish, eggs and dairy products) beat those in fruit and vegetables hands down. There is far more vitamin A in liver than in an apple, for instance.
But surely, people ask, even if there is no evidence that increasing our intake of fruit and vegetables will help prevent disease, they remain good things to eat?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/fo...#ixzz1BzWITtmO
Is this credible science or not?
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Unread 01-24-2011, 04:09 PM
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Seriously?
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Unread 01-24-2011, 04:18 PM
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Elsewhere in the article, the nutrition expert* claims that as long as you don't put bad food in your body, you don't need fiber to flush it out. The man is, literally and figuratively, full of I need to read the rules post.

//b. strong

*He's a PhD student. In my experience, PhD students often know just enough to be dangerous, and not enough to realize how little they actually know.
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Seriously?
British article. The Brits are SUCH a healthy lot. We should listen to them
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British article. The Brits are SUCH a healthy lot. We should listen to them
Hey, our obesity epidemic is less bad than your obesity epidemic.

Seriously, its not a good newspaper. Not that even good newspapers tend to make much of an effort to report anything science-based properly.

Like the author, there seem to be a lot of people spouting off online who used to be hardcore veggies/vegans, and have now gone hardcore pro-meat/carnivore/paleotard. All of them are nutjobs.
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lol@the Daily Mail

That's essentially a tabloid
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Unread 01-24-2011, 07:15 PM
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Lyle is my most trusted source for nutrional info even if he doesn't have a PhD in nutrition.
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lol@the Daily Mail

That's essentially a tabloid
Essentially?

The daily mail is trash, aimed at hate filled idiots who think pictures of celebs out shopping count as news stories.

I would actually rather read the Sun. And I would rather eat nails than read the Sun.
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Yes, but what would the Daily mail say about the nutritional value of those nails?
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Unread 01-26-2011, 08:36 PM
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I believe it's actually a woman. I checked her site out and watched a brief video of her saying the calories in, calories out theory is bunk and lots of other dumb stuff. I'd peg her as an anti-fruit, anti-carbs, anti-calories theory taubesist, but it's rare for a low carber, except a zero carber, to dismiss veggies.
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