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Unread 03-15-2011, 07:33 PM
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Default My ketosis experience

Right, so im on the keto diet

Been on for about a 2 weeks and a half now.

Initially i lost alot of weight, obviously water, and my face immediately looked thinner.

Ketostix showed traces of ketones, so i assumed i am in ketosis.

This week i decided to add in dark chocolate, peanuts into my diet while still always staying under 30g net carbs excluding fibre

Chocolate has 5.6g sugar (net carbs) per serving - only have 1 a day
Peanuts 1.1g - 1 serving a day


Still peeing on ketostix, always shows ketones in urine... So assume im ketosis still.

BUT

no bad breath, no smelly urine(drink alot of water) so no purple readings on stix
Face has got a little fatter (as if waters back)

Havent seen fluctuation in weight on scales which would relate to water
Stix still reading ketones
Weight steadyish (obv wanting it to lower from fat)

Q Is it safe to im still in ketosis and still losing fat?


Also as a side note, wanted to see if diet drinks kick me out of ketosis.
So drank one, had some water(pint)
Peed hour later
Ketostix read positive for ketones
Peed few hours later again read positive.
Peed 5-6 hours later and still read positive.

Q Is it safe to say they dont kick me out , due to insulin spikes?
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Unread 03-15-2011, 07:45 PM
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Step one - read my signature - pay attention to the first line.

Step two - are you in a calorie deficit (yes/no answer implied)

Step three A: if step two is "YES" continue as you are and forget the ketostix.

Step three B: if step two is "NO" then reduce calories and forget the ketostix.

in step three notice that you ignore the ketostix, it will save you $ as you don't need to measure your urine anymore.
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Unread 03-15-2011, 07:53 PM
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Ok thanks,

Yes im in a calorie deficit

But i want to burn fat so ketosis is important to me

And how can i tell then if diet drinks effect it?
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Unread 03-15-2011, 08:35 PM
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On reading the last post, I actually did the full Captain Picard involuntarily.

Myles couldn't really have said it any better.

Ketostix are not reliable at all (this has been covered about a million times). There are good and bad point to ketogenic diets (also many posts about this), but there is nothing magic about them. Even on a keto diet, calories are what matter.

If a keto diet works for you - thats great. It doesn't mean that teh carbs and insulinz are the enemy though.
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It's Myles' Canadian accent. Makes him very hard to understand sometimes.
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It's Myles' Canadian accent. Makes him very hard to understand sometimes.
People don't get what he is talking aboot?
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Unread 03-15-2011, 11:20 PM
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no, eh?
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Lots of dietary fat helps put you into deeper ketosis but reduces your caloric deficit so it doesn't help on a diet. You might be eating too much fat, which is the most common problem I see with people on keto diets. Yes, it's a 'high fat' diet, as you can't eat just protein (unless you're RFLing), so some of the carb calories need to be replaced with fat, but people have multiple tablespoons of cream on their coffee, veggies cooked in bacon grease, olive oil and butter over their veggies, the fattiest meats they can find and really go crazy with the fat sometimes.

So try using some leaner meats and/or cut back on fatty condiments (mayo, oils, butter, lard, cream etc). Also, try to use your few carb calories for veggies primarily, incorporate the chocolate in a free meal. If things still aren't moving (also throw out the ketostix), then bust out the food scale and measuring cups and start counting calories.
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