fruits and insulin resistance

[raja]

This question is not in my context iam asking just for information.

say some people who are insulin resistant cat-3 and do a rfl type of a diet lose good fat but yet not become very insulin sensitive means still stay in higher end cat-2 .

now when they take a diet break and if they are eating at maintenance and there carb source is fruits , vegetables maybe some starches wont they be having problems from insulin considering that they still are insulin resistant .

and how much does fruit and how much of its amount contribute to make some 1 insulin resistant ?

[lylemcd]

While there has been a lot of talk about fructose causing insulin resistance, most of hte studies use absurd amounts (things like feeding rats a 60% fructose diet for 6 months straight). At fructose intakes of 30-60 grams per day (which is a LOT of fruit since each piece usually only has like 5-7 grams or so), there is no issue.

Let's face it, fruits and vegetables are not the problem in the modern diet.

[raja]

Originally Posted by lylemcd

While there has been a lot of talk about fructose causing insulin resistance, most of hte studies use absurd amounts (things like feeding rats a 60% fructose diet for 6 months straight). At fructose intakes of 30-60 grams per day (which is a LOT of fruit since each piece usually only has like 5-7 grams or so), there is no issue.

Let's face it, fruits and vegetables are not the problem in the modern diet.

thanx a lot .
so insulin resistant people can have more fruits and vegetables to hit the 100gms mark and stay away from starches in there diet break period ?

[lylemcd]

I think so, yes.

[Fried Bacon]

Excessive fructose intake above a caloric maintainance might cause fat gain, but that rarely happens and fruits more often than not gets the blame for it

[lylemcd]

Excess anything at maintenance will tend to cause fat gain. I'm just not seeing excessive fruit intake as the major problem with the modern diet.

[jc]

Originally Posted by lylemcd

Excess anything at maintenance will tend to cause fat gain. I'm just not seeing excessive fruit intake as the major problem with the modern diet.

am I reading this right?

[jc]

FWIW, I work with a guy who had some IR issues, feeling tired after carb meals etc. we swapped out the starchy carbs for fruits and he did much better.

yea, fruit is real bad

[lylemcd]

Originally Posted by jc

am I reading this right?

No, I was typing quickly in response to fried bacon who wrote

"intake above a caloric maintainance might cause fat gain,"

And I substituted 'at' for 'above'